veronica 2 Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I think that seems pretty useless as well, not interested. Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I think it's great if you take lots of photos out in the field cos you can throw the pics on the iPod and keep taking photos instead of buying more memory sticks (like a dual purpose music player/photo memory thingy...). However I wouldn't buy one specially for that purpose- I have enough SDRAM in my camera (at this point of my photographic career), plus I'm pissed that Apple have sold out on all the musicians who have been waiting so long for a recordable iPod... I'll keep my iPod but I'll probably wind up getting an iRiver once I need to start recording lots of live gigs again. I'll probably only use it recording but it's lighter and so much more convenient than using a DAT (forget MDs for sound quality). I had hoped that Apple could come thru for us, but I don't foresee it happening in future high end iPods either (well, not in the next 18 months) so I've given up hoping. Anyway I've winged enough about this particular peeve of mine throughout this thread so I'll shut up about it for now. Bring on the next iPods... I like the black, not sure about the red, but I wouldn't knock it back if someone gave me one... Link to post Share on other sites
KlingKlang 1 Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 I like the look of that. Black and red. Pity about the U2 songs on it. Can you delete them? Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 sunrise... when has the iPod ever catered to musicians???? danz Link to post Share on other sites
veronica 2 Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 ipod photo impressions here http://playlistmag.com/features/2004/10/ipodphotofirst/index.php/?lsrc=mcrss-1004 not keen on this photo idea, it just seems useless to me. id rather have a better battery Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Quote: Originally posted by veronica: id rather have a better battery Yes, I had heard that you have difficulty keeping up the pace. Link to post Share on other sites
nori-chan 0 Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 I thought this new one has better battery for 12 hours, right? Link to post Share on other sites
Hanging Chad 0 Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 I'd wait on getting one of the newer ones as there seems to be an audio flaw in them.. --- iPod Photo manifests audio defect After preliminary testing of our new 60GB iPod Photo hardware, iPodlounge has confirmed the presence of the same audio defect widely reported in the fourth-generation iPod shortly after its release. The defect can be heard in headphones when the iPod Photo's hard drive reloads its music memory buffer, and sounds like static accompanied by hard drive accessing noises, overlapping for several seconds the beginning of a music track. As a reader noted in iPodlounge Backstage earlier this month, an almost identical problem has been reported, acknowledged, and addressed by Rio, the manufacturer of Carbon music players. Though iPodlounge provided two affected fourth-generation iPods to Apple in late July, the company has to date has had no official comment on or public solution for the defect. Though we realize that few of our readers will have purchased the $599 60GB unit, we ask that those with iPod Photos read the prior reports and testing procedure, and add comments to this story's thread so that we can determine the scope of these issues. We note that the sounds appear to be more faint and intermittent in our iPod Photo hardware than in our 4G iPods, however, they can still be heard. Link to post Share on other sites
veronica 2 Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 We don't want no audio flaws, oh no. Link to post Share on other sites
Roger's head 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Should think so, for $600 Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 This is their karma for not giving us Line In. Hiya Danz, how's life out of Japan? Actually, I thought the iPod has been great for musicians apart from this one flaw. Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 life is good...I like being a student again (except for the perpetual brokeness...)... just curious...aren't these things a musician would want?? gapless playback multiple audio codecs (there are at least 5 I can think of that are well accepted...and most perform better than mp3 and acc) parametric equalizer let us not even get to features that everyone should want...and I don't think iPod does a good job (if at all) with the above... iPod never catered to musicians...that would be to small a target group for Apple. and it certainly doesn't cater to audiophiles either. and now for the plug...my Rio Karma does all of the above! yah danz Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Danz, How much was your Rio Karma and how many Gigs is it? Will get a new audio device as my MD player is almost kaput but would also like one that records live shows as well. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 What are you studying? gapless playback - I don't need it. multiple audio codecs - sure - iPod and iTunes support WAV and AIF I use these all the time on my iPod. parametric eq - no necessary for me. If I'm going to do any serious listening I don't usually do that thru the iPod anyway, so precise eq isn't critical for me on iPod. If I listen thru a good set of monitors rather than headphones, I'll just play the music either directly from my computer thru Protools or iTunes or the original CD and EQ anything necessary either my external mixer or protools, but the mixer is fairly set up to give me a decent sound in my room. There are enough EQ preset settings on the iPod to suffice my listening needs, which are usually while travelling on trains, in cars, etc.... (though I must admit I tend to play things flat rather than use the eq presets cos you have to keep changing eq for different songs - which also would be the same with a parametric eq. If I playback thru someone else's stereo or system there's extra adjustment there. I think that kind of eq is more for audiphiles rather than specifically musicians. Perhaps the same for gapless playback. , Though of course musicians needs will differ depending on what they do and what they'd use a player/recorder for. Someone doing DJ work from their iPod might want a gapless option for example. I also find the small portable harddrive with Firewire a boon when tranferring files to different protools systems at different studios. Saves always having to carry an external drive around as well. USB2 is only available on newer Macs and many studios (and me too) are still running G4s with only Firewire. And iTunes is great for converting files, even without an iPod. I sometimes have to convert mp3s to AIFs or WAV to burn CDs, and of course, vice versa. I just took a look at the Rio Karma - it's nice and compact, but I couldn't see any line in. It also wouldn't suit me because I don't (yet) have USB2, so I'd need Firewire until my next computer upgrade. It seems to be good for the audophile, nice touch with the RCA outs. So far the only thing I can see that has mic/line in is the iRiver (which you so nicely told me about somewhere way back when on this thread). Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 hey sunrise... I study aeronautics and astronautics engineering....but I tell the ladies I am rocket scientist as for the dap discussion...I am so amazed how apple has duped so many people into thinking "I don't need it" when it is a useful feature that can and should be implemented, and at no extra cost (check out the competition). Gapless playback is a great example...and battery life is another. It has taken iPod 4 generations to only get within 2-4 hrs of the competion...yup, they are still less than what others have to offer... yuki..the rio karma is a 20gb player. You can probably find it for <$300...mind you, its not the perfect player, you need to decide what you like...but for all your dmb and dtb shows, ogg is a great format, and flac even better...and you probably really would appreciate gapless playback too... Link to post Share on other sites
ug 0 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 ipod buyers guide http://gallery.ipodlounge.com/iPodloungeBuyersGuide2004.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
KlingKlang 1 Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Thanks for that, good effort Link to post Share on other sites
veronica 2 Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Just downloaded that, looks really well made. Will have to take a good look later on. Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Nice one, a whole lot of effort put into that by the looks. Impressive. Link to post Share on other sites
IIIII 2 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 So other players do gapless playback? Doesn't that suck up battery life, I would have thought it would need more of the battery to be able to do that. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Cheers Danz, Im gonna hit Yodobashi this weeknd and check out some of the players they have there. Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 I=I=I... Actually, the biggest hits to battery life occur whenever you need to access the hard-drive, or depending on the complexity of the codec (for example, .ogg uses more battery life, although it is a better codec than mp3 in terms of quality v. file size) And yes, Karma does do gapless very well...and as for the battery hit, it stills performs longer than ipod ( I seem to get 12 solid hours on mine, with mp3, ogg, and wma all mixed in there ) Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 danz how long do you get on one of them there babies if you're playing songs at random? Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 A dreaded pdf file and a bloody big one too. Interesting though - and interesting that a website would put so much effort into a 'retro' mag like that. Link to post Share on other sites
veronica 2 Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 I thought it was really good, specially the parts of the accessories. Link to post Share on other sites
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