amandanism 0 Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 the real reason beckham missed... Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Why are the referees such a bunch of clowns? The England/Portugal referee looked like some cheap Russian movie villain who dubs himself 'the wolfman' and the ref in the next game, france vs greece looked like some bad extra from Miami Vice, with his atrocious blond mullet, hairy chest and gold chain. Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I thought the same. You can tell Becks is thinking about pork pies with a side order of pork scratchings in that pic above hey? Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 David Beckham has become the Anna Kournikova of football. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 Gerrard to stay! Hurrah!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3847081.stm Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 Bet you're glad about that. I wish van Niselrooy would do the same. If Rooney comes, we want him to team up, not replace van-chan. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted July 2, 2004 Author Share Posted July 2, 2004 Anyone watch the first semi last night? Worth watching_? Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 That ref has gone into hiding! http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,1251274,00.html Some "fans" are in need of serious help. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Is that "Wolfman". Surely he has a dastardly plan to take over the world or something. Link to post Share on other sites
Dims 0 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Quote: "hundreds of emails and at least a thousand phone calls" from England fans, he told the Swiss newspaper Blick. As well as the f-word, "they usually also mention cuckoo clocks and cheese", he complained. It's really terrible of the england "fans" but I did have to laugh about that one. I can only imagine some of the freshly minted sayings going on there. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 cuckoo clocks and cheese?!? Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 Watching it in 20 minutes - I've been holding out on the score until now. Link to post Share on other sites
stripper on coke 0 Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 I think it's really irresponsible of the English press to advertise his personal details or encourage people to contact him at home like that. Surely that is more damaging to the English football reputation then 'hooligans'. I mean, if England were to be denied entry to a major tourament because of the lack of maturity shown in some quarters of their press.....I know there is no talk of anything like that happening (yet), but......... BTW, not having seen this 'no-goal', I thought the general reaction here was that the ref got it right. Did he, or didn't he........?????? Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted July 3, 2004 Author Share Posted July 3, 2004 Who would have thought Portugal vs Greece final. You'd think surely Portugal would win, but then again Greece got to the final!! Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 I'll be watching that tonight. Good to see Van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo looking matey at the end of the Portugal / Holland game. Ronaldo is going to be brilliant this coming season, and with van N not moving - oh, can't wait for the new season to get going. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 How did Greece do it, article here; http://football.guardian.co.uk/euro2004/comment/story/0,14584,1252659,00.html Surely they cant beet portugal AGAIN? Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 I had a drink with a very happy Greek bloke last night. Animated he was. Where does this idea of 'deserving' come from? Is there some morality of football - the game is just so easy to understand that clear moral judgements can, and should, be applied? It reminds me a bit of the bloke at uni that I beat at chess everytime. He was in the habit of claiming that he had played a better, more noble game than me, and had scored a 'moral victory'. Is it naiive to wish that some of the moral perspicuity lavished on football games and tournaments were occasionally focused on international relations that count? I suppose it is... Link to post Share on other sites
giggsy 0 Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 I've watched many a game where the other team played shite, got on the end of a lucky (bad) decision by a ref and won the game. They didn't deserve to - anyone watching the game thought the saem. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted July 5, 2004 Share Posted July 5, 2004 Fair enough - in that case you might say that the team didn't deserve to win. But it's not being used in that way. It's frequently used affirmatively as though football were fraught with tests of moral worth and the undeserving come out on top so frequently that when an underdog team does well, it's necessary to point out that they are deserving, as if it were more likely that they are not. I think it's a bit odd, that's all. Personally I find it more satisfying to make a rough judgement whether a given player earned his salary or not. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted July 6, 2004 Author Share Posted July 6, 2004 Based on salary?! In that case NONE of them (in the higher leagues at least) will have earned that!! As I'm sure you well know. Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 So Greece won. That was unexpected. It would have been nice to have put a bet on that pre-tournament. Link to post Share on other sites
Honest John 0 Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Imagine if you'd put 100 on that. Not that you would have of course!! Enjoyed it on the whole. Would have liked to have seen a better effort by our lads. Oh well. Premiership starts in just over a month. Link to post Share on other sites
giggsy 0 Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Euro 04 the awards http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2004/3859921.stm Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 And the Mirrors awards: ---------------- BEST MATCH: Holland 2 Czech Republic 3. BEST GOAL: Maniche for Portugal against Holland. BEST IMPROVISATION: Zlatan Ibrahimovic's back-heel for Sweden against Italy. BEST SAVE: Dane Thomas Sorensen's double stop against Italy. WORST GOALKEEPING ERROR: Sorensen against Sweden. BEST PENALTY: Helder Postiga against England. WORST PENALTY: David Beckham v Portugal; Runner-up: Beckham v France. WORST EXCUSE: Eriksson blaming the penalty spot. BIGGEST SURPRISE: Greece winning the tournament. MOST PREDICTABLE RESULT: Sweden 2 Denmark 2. WORST REFEREE: Urs Meier, Portugal v England. WORST DECISION: Mike Riley refusing Latvia a penalty against Germany. WORST QUESTION: (to Czech boss Karel Bruckner after semi-final defeat) "Did you think the silver goal was the decisive moment of the match?" BEST ANSWER: Portugal boss Luis Felipe Scolari, asked if he was lucky with substitutions against England: "Yes, I suppose I was lucky. Like I was lucky with the substitutions when I won the World Cup. And like I was lucky with the substitutions when I won 16 trophies in Brazil. I guess I must be a lucky manager." BEST STADIUM: Estadio Dragao, Oporto. WORST STADIUM: Estadio Cidade de Coimbra. SORE LOSER AWARD: Swiss chief press officer Pierre Benoit: "What the coach didn't say, and should have said, is that there was a foul for England's second goal. Everyone in the stadium saw that, except the referee. And what he also didn't say, and I will, is that it's about time we played 11 against 11, not 10 against 12." JACQUES COUSTEAU AWARD FOR DIVING: Arjen Robben. PETER KENYON AWARD FOR TRANSFER FAILURES: Peter Kenyon. BEST LOOK-ALIKES: Luis Felipe Scolari/Gene Hackman Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted July 6, 2004 Share Posted July 6, 2004 Congrats to the Greeks. Didn't they do well. Link to post Share on other sites
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