NoFakie 45 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 First dibs on the guitars and amps! We'll probably do the non-direct flight thing next time ourselves. It's too expensive not to. One week in the UK and two weeks off in mainland Europe somewhere. That's my kind of plan! Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I'm all choked up with the heartfelt love..... Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Well, I am very concerned about your safety, Chriselle. But Unit 4 might collapse before then, in which case all of the northern hemisphere will be toast. Possibly the southern one too, but that's just my non-scientific guess. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 First dibs on the guitars and amps! We'll probably do the non-direct flight thing next time ourselves. It's too expensive not to. One week in the UK and two weeks off in mainland Europe somewhere. That's my kind of plan! That's one thing I just can't wrap my head around. Offering cut rates is fine but how do JAL and Air Canada charge their outrageous fuel surcharges while I fly an extra 5 hours for half their surcharge fees. I can't think of any other situation where this F'ed up logic exists. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Well, I am very concerned about your safety, Chriselle. But Unit 4 might collapse before then, in which case all of the northern hemisphere will be toast. Possibly the southern one too, but that's just my non-scientific guess. And certainly as accurate as the actual scientists. Link to post Share on other sites
tokabochi 9 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Just ask for the flight without the 'bonus' fuel! Link to post Share on other sites
joshnii 2 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Do the fuel surcharges vary much between airlines? Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 First dibs on the guitars and amps! We'll probably do the non-direct flight thing next time ourselves. It's too expensive not to. One week in the UK and two weeks off in mainland Europe somewhere. That's my kind of plan! That's one thing I just can't wrap my head around. Offering cut rates is fine but how do JAL and Air Canada charge their outrageous fuel surcharges while I fly an extra 5 hours for half their surcharge fees. I can't think of any other situation where this F'ed up logic exists. Yes, that is ****ed up. We booked our flights to Toronto the other day. Haneda-LA-Toronto, Toronto-Washington DC-Narita... not looking forward to going through the states. This is also the most expensive non-direct flight I've ever booked, almost double what I paid last March when I went home on a direct flight. Link to post Share on other sites
klingon 10 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 About how much was that BM, if you don't mind me asking? Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 2100 US$ each. Direct flights were 2850$. Almost not worth it. Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Ouch thats a lot! Still, have never really understood why transit is cheaper, besides a minor inconvenience. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 We just got to suck it up and choose hey. I have upgraded my flight to "Economy Comfort" (as opposted to, presumably "Economy Discomfort"). Hate doing it, but hey it sure as heck feels better on the day(s). Taken my price to I think around 180,000 yen return. Would prefer to pay less but hey there you go. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 2100 US$ each. Direct flights were 2850$. Almost not worth it. That's the prices we were looking at ...maybe more... for a direct flight to Vancouver. Remember when we first came to Japan....return flights on JAL were around ¥80,000 all inclusive? Prices have tripled or more in 15 years.... Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Hmm. It definitely seems to have been "up" in the last few years, but I am pretty sure I remember a return to the UK in peak summer costing 250,000 yen. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Ya, maybe peak summer but mid to end of July was around the ¥100,000 mark. BUT, also that was when Canadian Airlines was still operating and there was competition. It's like flights to LA or Seattle....those destinations are still fairly reasonable because they get a lot of traffic via many carriers. Link to post Share on other sites
Nisoko 6 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 You know what I'd love to see on an international flight...... the price every one paid for their seat. A bit number flashing above their head. Or everyone hold up a piece of paper. It would be very interesting to see all the variations. And probably quite annoying as well, if you paid more than others. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 [broken record] The most annoying one is when Jetstar off 299 AUD return to Japan and for folks in Japan, flying on the same dates is 75,000 yen All the big airlines do it too. August 9 Heathrow to Narita, August 21 Narita to Heathrow on KLM is 878 pounds all in buying the ticket today. A return flight in the opposite direction on the cheapest similar dates is 190,000 yen, close to double. I'm convinced the fuel surcharge is just a way to gouge money out of people in Japan. I suspect there is collusion involved, probably with the government in there too to help JAL and ANA who are otherwise uncompetitive. So you can fly on BA out of Japan if you like but you're still paying the JAL price. [/broken record] Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Same thing booking from Canada as opposed to booking in Japan. My mother makes a point of it to let me know how much less it is...... Link to post Share on other sites
KlingKlang 1 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 And is there really no way round this, to effectively beat the system? Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I think I (we) would have heard some sort of rumor by now if there was. I'm letting my dollars do the talking by sacrificing my time to go the round about way with a crappy carrier. JAL and Air Canada can bite me... Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 This may be just me being silly, but, what would stop me buying a return... Edit: scrap that, I just realised I was being extremely silly! Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Silly ..... Yes, very silly. Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 He's a bit like that sometimes Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 [broken record] The most annoying one is when Jetstar off 299 AUD return to Japan and for folks in Japan, flying on the same dates is 75,000 yen All the big airlines do it too. August 9 Heathrow to Narita, August 21 Narita to Heathrow on KLM is 878 pounds all in buying the ticket today. A return flight in the opposite direction on the cheapest similar dates is 190,000 yen, close to double. I'm convinced the fuel surcharge is just a way to gouge money out of people in Japan. I suspect there is collusion involved, probably with the government in there too to help JAL and ANA who are otherwise uncompetitive. So you can fly on BA out of Japan if you like but you're still paying the JAL price. [/broken record] I sent British Airways a rather irate Daily Mail-like email couple of years ago complaining of this very thing, their reply was, when you cut through all the flowere doubles-speak that actually has no meaning was, "tough...suck it up" bastards Link to post Share on other sites
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