SKI 15 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 That looks like a fun ride that one. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Where is that from yos? Link to post Share on other sites
journey_man 0 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: gareth_oau Originally Posted By: Journey Man Yeah, but I wont do mine up! oh Journeyman, youre such a webel, a wascal even Sounds like something out of the Feebles! Link to post Share on other sites
Ezorisu 0 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: stemik Japan law states that - detachable cable lifts require a safety bar. single cable lifts do not.. quite ridicuously it doesnt depend on height, winds, etc... Interesting! I did not know that, but now that you mention it, it makes sense (not as in, "it makes sense that detachable lifts have them but non-detachable ones don't," but more like, "what is observed falls into some framework of understanding"). Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Can anyone recall even one incident of someone falling off a lift in Japan? There are hundreds of resorts, many with old lifts with no safety bar yet I can't remember any incidents in the last 4 or 5 seasons of anyone falling off. Doesn't seem too unsafe to me. Link to post Share on other sites
yoroshiku onegai shimasu 2 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Never heard of any. Link to post Share on other sites
yoroshiku onegai shimasu 2 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 SKI - Shiga Kogen the middle bit near Ichinose called Takamagamaharamaharagamasaka or something like that. Link to post Share on other sites
gareth_oau 2 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 The lifts like this one in Thredbo have 2 chains across the front, rather than a bar Originally Posted By: yoroshiku onegai shimasu This was a curious 2 man lift with absolutely no hint of safety bar. It was like one of those one man trays, but for two. Link to post Share on other sites
yoroshiku onegai shimasu 2 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Just to be clear, there was no bar on the lift above. Link to post Share on other sites
fukdane 2 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Originally Posted By: Go Native Can anyone recall even one incident of someone falling off a lift in Japan? There are hundreds of resorts, many with old lifts with no safety bar yet I can't remember any incidents in the last 4 or 5 seasons of anyone falling off. Doesn't seem too unsafe to me. Good point. I cannot remember hearing of anything like that. I suppose though some people are put off by lifts they don't like the look of. (Sissies). Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Some people have a fear of heights, they aren't wierd or sooks, they just have that (irrational) fear. No way to overcome it, but a safety bar is a lot better than none. (I ski with a lady who shuts her eyes all the way up every lift. Only way to avoid the fear of falling. She also clamps onto her +1's arm like a vice!) She has major palpitations on lifts like the black double at Mt Perisher with the chain across, and the orange double at Niseko with nothing. Link to post Share on other sites
fukdane 2 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I know JA, I was just being silly with that last comment. I can totally understand why some people may not want to ride one without a safety bar. Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 All good! So long as we understand each other, all is well. Link to post Share on other sites
SendaiSimon 0 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I like wearing a helmet in mid-winter. There's the safety factor as well as it really keeping my head warm, an added bonus. Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Originally Posted By: Go Native Can anyone recall even one incident of someone falling off a lift in Japan? There are hundreds of resorts, many with old lifts with no safety bar yet I can't remember any incidents in the last 4 or 5 seasons of anyone falling off. Doesn't seem too unsafe to me. My youngest fell off the lift last week. The height was about 3 meters. He had a bloody nose and black eye. There was blood everywhere but after a quick x-ray everything was ok. It was a Tokyu lift and covered by their insurance. Why did he fall? Swinging on the lift with his big sister. Kids are kids and will swing - these lifts should have saftey bars! Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 sheet, bet that was a bit worrying. Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 i missed most of the action, but wasnt nice to see all the blood Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Glad your grommet is alright there Stemik! Not nice when you think your kid is hurt is it. Safety bars! Safety bars! Safety bars! I just interpreted for an OH&S lecture today - and MY GOD! It is all about risk minimisation - if the safety bar is there and the customer chooses not to use it - the responsibility is on thier head - but without a safety bar the companies are leaving themselves WIDE open to litigation. Even in Japan - it is coming .... I never though Aus would be as litigious as the US, but they have become that way... it is really only a matter of time. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 I suppose this is one of those things that you noticed more when you have children...... Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I'm glad to hear he was ok, I'm sure it could have been much worse. Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 he was totally fine, but he is banned from skiing rest of this season! Link to post Share on other sites
journey_man 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 was there much screaming and shouting about unfair when you delivered that verdict? Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Glad to hear he is OK. 3 metres is pretty high for a Grom. Probably shocked the person riding behind. I've seen people fall off. Once it was like he nodded off and fell. The other was it looked like the person dropped something and reacted, shifted her body, and slipped off. When I was younger I read stories on the paper about people falling off, maybe once a season. More often people fatally crashing into the lift. Unfortunatly, I saw this a few times. They put the red mattress around the lift in late 70's as a countermeasure. I think the bar thing happened around then, too. Since I am snowboarding, I really like the foot rest. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I nearly feel off at Naeba this year. My own fault I was messing round with lenses. Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I always use the safety bar when there is one. Out of habit I suppose. That single tray lift thing at Madarao is pretty 'exciting'. Link to post Share on other sites
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