rach 1 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Another fight time. I'm interested in the comments that will come from this. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Happo gets my vote. Kagura can be good, but it can't win against Happo. Link to post Share on other sites
sava 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Kagura doesn't seem to stand a chance Link to post Share on other sites
griller 9 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Whoah I thought it might be a bit closer than that! Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 TAKE THAT KAGURA!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
number9 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Kagura only wins in the convenient department for Tokyo folks, yeah? Still it's the best of the bunch in the Yuzawa area (or so I read). Too many places that I want to go (again) this season including Happo, Suginohara, and Arai. Happo would have the best condition out of the three now yeah? Link to post Share on other sites
Mudguts 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Happo vs Kagura ain't a contest! They're not comparable terrain wise. Kagura has one run in regards to steepness and length that would maybe compare to Happos 20! Snow quality is probably similar. Link to post Share on other sites
uggggllllyyyy 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 This one goes around too. Time to stick up for kagura. Happo snow sucks big time compared with Kagura. Powder at kagura is (sometimes) comparable with Hokkaido whereas Happo's is always wet. I agree with Happo's quantity of on-piste terrain but the amount of people at happo makes this a pain in the ass. Weekends are ALWAYS busy at happo and I prefer going to other resorts in Hakuba if you want on-piste. Off-piste at kagura is so easily accessable and with quality of snow it wins hands down against most of the Happo off-piste. Happo does have more of the very steep stuff though. Not really bothered because with most of the Hakuba-philes here at Hakuba it means more fresh stuff in kick arse kagura. Finally Kagura has a longer season that happo (I mean Happo and NOT the high-alpine!) Bring it on happo! Link to post Share on other sites
yodel 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 In my experience neither win with snow. I have experienced poor snow at Kagura (and apparently this week has been poor). Link to post Share on other sites
Rag-Doll 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Hi, I don't normally post on forums but have to jump in here to defend the big K. 4 times to Happo and never had a good day - although that Virgin cafe place is nice. Kagura is within day trip distance from Tokyo (a big plus) and if you're keen and don't mind ducking ropes you can spend the whole riding lifts and trees and not much else without any agro from the patrol. Link to post Share on other sites
woollydressingGown 0 Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 You're going to get crap days at both. I've seen both at their best. Happo wins hands down. PS I'm not a 'Hakuba-phile' - just know what I like. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Kagura is just 30-40 minutes from where I live so it's really convenient and I know it well. The times I have been to Happo I really enjoyed it. It's just a bigger scale. I like both. Link to post Share on other sites
I_HATE_CHEESE 0 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by uggggllllyyyy:Happo snow sucks big time compared with Kagura. Powder at kagura is (sometimes) comparable with Hokkaido whereas Happo's is always wet.Bring it on happo! are you smoking crack? ...always wet? come on now, hyperbolating a little arent we?Rag Doll - 4 days and 4 bad? that does suck, you must be an unlucky person. Link to post Share on other sites
klubhead 0 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 kagura wins...8 seasons there..better than niseko ( totally over-rated..been there many times so i do know what i am talking about ). happo is probably the worst place in hakuba for boarders..if u are a skiier then maybe its better than kagura but if u like accessible tree runs and bc, a 7 month season, relaxed ski patrol then no kontest..KAGURA!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
I_HATE_CHEESE 0 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Happo has very relaxed patrol - it is 47, Goryu, Tsugaike, Cortina with uptight patrols. Happo patrol are very relaxed. The worst place for boarders? really I guess many of the secrets are still secrets, that is a good thing. Sometimes you cant see the forest for the trees. Actually come to think of it, yeah happo sucks stay away, lets all Kagura! its the place to be, dont go to Happo its garbage!. Link to post Share on other sites
peterson 0 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I've been to both and feel they are difficult to compare. Kagura is easier to get to, but I prefer Happo overall. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Happo is not always wet ive skied at naeba at the top and its about the same. I can find fresh track for a week after a storm can that be down at kagura no hiking? Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 It depends on the definition of 1 week after the storm. If it was snowing heavily on Sun-Mon, then most probably you can find some fresh tracks for the rest of the week. Weekend usually is the end of everything in kagura area, so no more freshies after that unless it was snowing during the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
snowboard 0 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 I find them 2 hard to compare as well they are quite different experiences - like both. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Pretty strong showing for Happo there. Link to post Share on other sites
peterson 0 Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I like them both. Similar subject, anyone else think Ishiuchi is like a mini Happo?..... similar kind of shape to it Link to post Share on other sites
The Colin 0 Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 I went to both this season and I much preferred Happo - the snow was better (though I realise that is timing), the layout and choice of courses and the look of the place. I'm not into BC yet so I don't know about all that. Link to post Share on other sites
baldguy 0 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 I'm no expert and stay on the slopes for the most part. The few times I've been to both though I much prefer Happo. Link to post Share on other sites
griller 9 Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 Well, I like both and enjoy what they both have to offer. Link to post Share on other sites
TedFranklin 0 Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 I was really disappointed with Kagura when I went there as I was expecting more than I got. From the days I've had at both, Happo wins easy. Link to post Share on other sites
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