pie-eater 207 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Would you recommend, Metabo Oyaji? Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Depends where you live, I guess. If people around you have them, then not having one makes your house an easier target. Actually, the security companies will tell you that the most effective part of their system is really the sticker they put on your door. Link to post Share on other sites
best skier in hakuba 5 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 One of my friends has a Secom system. It has the usual window/door sensors, as well as a fire/smoke thing connected to them as well. Also the olders both have a simple button gizmo that they press a button and the Secom guys will turn up which seems a handy thing to have. They pay about 5000 yen a month. Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Yeah, our system comes with one of those panic buttons, too. Link to post Share on other sites
oo 1 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 5000 yen a month doesn't seem so bad, I thought it would be much more than that. Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 No houses in this area have security. In fact a lot dont bother to lock their doors. Our two dogs will do for our security. They are not at all big but will chew the shit out of any uninvited guests. Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 5000 yen a month doesn't seem so bad, I thought it would be much more than that. Ours is only about half that, actually, but it is a pretty minimal system. (Or else it is because we paid up front to own the sensors, rather than rent them. Break-even on that decision was about 4-5 years, as I recall.) Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 I am too surprised at how little it costs. I was imagining at least over a man a month. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Do they give any kind of guarentee about response times? You know, from when SECOM are alerted to when the guys turn up in their lovely helmets and uniforms? Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 How much is just the sticker you put on your door? Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Ha ha, yes, they say they get that request all the time. As for response time, I don't remember if they promise anything, but in practice it takes them about 10 minutes to show up. (I've, err, tested the system by accident before...) They also first call you to see if it was an オペミス. Before that (as soon as the sensor is tripped) there is a blue light they mount on the outside of your house which starts flashing, while the wall-mounted controller makes noise. What you don't get is the fade-in appearance of the ghost of KimuTaku's grandfather, or the Attack of the 50-ft Olympic Wrestler with Laser Beam Eyes. The TV commercials are perhaps a bit misleading in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 By law, they need to be able to get to your place within 25 minutes maximum. Or so I heard. Not sure why I know that. (Or even if it is true!) Link to post Share on other sites
@tokyo 14 Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Let's face it, with so many people going out and not locking up, but leaving cash in the house, one that is locked up and has obvious security is surely going to be pretty goddam safe. Would be interesting to see some stats on this kind of thing actually. Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted May 22, 2014 Author Share Posted May 22, 2014 All very interesting. Out of interest, I had a talk with Secom people who made up a mitsumori. Costs about 50000 yen to set up and then around 5400 yen a month. That's for a pretty tight package that covers everything, including fire. And stickers. Their office is 8km from where we live so estimate within 15 minutes arrival. I don't think we'll be bothering, but interesting all the same. Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Let's face it, with so many people going out and not locking up, but leaving cash in the house, one that is locked up and has obvious security is surely going to be pretty goddam safe. Would be interesting to see some stats on this kind of thing actually. I think I saw on some site that in Japan there are 117 burglaries per 100,000 people. In Australia the same site said there are 1,017 burglaries per 100,000 people. Link to post Share on other sites
gozaimaas 61 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Im not worried about security at all in japan. After living in AU all my life I reckon I have built in smarts year ahead of any japanese thief Link to post Share on other sites
gozaimaas 61 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 People arent on meth in jp. That goes a long way Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 People arent on meth in jp. Except for Aska. Link to post Share on other sites
gozaimaas 61 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 People arent on meth in jp. Except for Aska. Is he the dude getting hung out to dry by the media atm? Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 People arent on meth in jp. Except for Aska. Is he the dude getting hung out to dry by the media atm? Yes. Wasn't NoriPi also nabbed for speed? Or was it something else? Link to post Share on other sites
gozaimaas 61 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Im happy to say I have no idea who these peeps are lol Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Me neither. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 People arent on meth in jp. Except for Aska. Is he the dude getting hung out to dry by the media atm? Yes. Wasn't NoriPi also nabbed for speed? Or was it something else? I thought she was smoking crystal meth, and Aska was caught with MDMA Link to post Share on other sites
Boolugu Mez 3 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Given that the "on Meth" and burglary connection now been firmly established, I reckon I will start up a security company in Toronto.......and maybe as a side business, a chain of Meth Labs & security companies in Japan.......... Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 People arent on meth in jp. Except for Aska. Is he the dude getting hung out to dry by the media atm? Yes. Wasn't NoriPi also nabbed for speed? Or was it something else? I thought she was smoking crystal meth, and Aska was caught with MDMA I think the newspaper just said 覚醒剤. Haven't researched it further, have to admit. Link to post Share on other sites
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