grungy-gonads 54 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Originally Posted By: seemore Thats the problem you don't know, but riding around on a pushbike doesn't deserve getting beaten by batons and kicked. They could be curious and riding around to have a look, unless a curfew is in effect anyone can walk/ride the streets. Do you think that other guy they walked up to should have beaten as well? I understand they need to do something to control these people but that isn't the way. Seemore Attitudes like yours are sadly a part of the problem. These unruly wild beasts with no sense of right or wrong have absolutely no 'fear' of the consequences of their behavior. The authorities asked everyone to stay in. It was the third night of major rioting. Any decent kid WOULD NOT be biking around and reporting (which is what lots of those youths on bikes were doing) like they were, at that time, in that place. It is as simple as that. I say hurray to the police. Much more of that please. Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Maximum 20pts per game? And liverpool STILL can't win the league... Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites
1 4 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Has it calmed down now? Doesn't seem to be making the headlines now. Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Either that or they have trashed all the TV and newspaper offices. WARNING !! Link to post Share on other sites
seemore 66 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 GG Attitudes like mine are generated from personal experience. I was at a party when I was a teenager and mistaken for someone else and beaten with a big maglite torch by a policeman. What do you base your bully opinion on personal experience as well? Seemore Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Can't see how 'your experience' has anything to do with thugs rioting in Manchester in the middle of the night.... other than (perhaps) your inherent dislike of the police. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Apparently, for the scene in that video clip, a police helicopter has been hovering overhead and had been tracking these lovely obviously totally inoccent hooded kids with its spotlight. They were doing what had been seen in London quite a lot - biking round, letting others know where the police were sothat their mates could go cause trouble/loot elsewhere. Charming indeed. In fact, let's give them benefits and encourage them to fling bricks and fireworks at police officers. After all, there's sod all consequence for doing that as the police generally have their hands tied when being confronted with rampaging gangs of people wanting to kill them. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 Quiet for the last few nights now. Lets hope that nightmare is over. Well, the immediate nightmare of what was going on on Monday anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I was listening to the PM's speech on how he was going to get 'tough' on these rioter and start using water cannons. Water cannons??? How about some real cannons. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 No Mantas.... that would ever so cruel on the poor looters. After all, it's not their fault - it's the fault of the police!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 There's a discussion on BBC right now, one of the panelists is Terry Christian. Terry Christian!!! Quite fun to watch actually. Oh well. Back to Japan tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Water cannons wouldn't really fit what was happening this time with some real fast moving crowds, especially in London and Manchester. I hear they are pretty stationary and lumbersome. Very glad that things have been calm the last 3-4 nights though. Lets hope that continues. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 aren't they perched on Fire engine like vehicles? I'd love to have a go on one and skoosh buggery outta people! Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 How many points do you get for that? 20 per game? And to be fair, they are criminals, and we could do with a new colony, or perhaps extending an old one. Just ship them off down under, most of them would fit right in without much hassle. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Originally Posted By: Man_In_Japan How many points do you get for that? 20 per game? And to be fair, they are criminals, and we could do with a new colony, or perhaps extending an old one. Just ship them off down under, most of them would fit right in without much hassle. Rob, we can't copy another game!! We have to be original!! Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 2300+ arrested so far. Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Originally Posted By: Man_In_Japan Just ship them off down under, most of them would fit right in without much hassle. No I'm afraid your stuck with them this time. I've always thought they got it back to front. They should've left all the convicts in England and move the rest down here, but I suppose that would've been to inhumane to leave them there. Link to post Share on other sites
JellyBelly 1 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Miliband. Is his real name Wallace? Link to post Share on other sites
mitchpee 10 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Originally Posted By: grungy-gonads Originally Posted By: seemore Thats the problem you don't know, but riding around on a pushbike doesn't deserve getting beaten by batons and kicked. They could be curious and riding around to have a look, unless a curfew is in effect anyone can walk/ride the streets. Do you think that other guy they walked up to should have beaten as well? I understand they need to do something to control these people but that isn't the way. Seemore Attitudes like yours are sadly a part of the problem. These unruly wild beasts with no sense of right or wrong have absolutely no 'fear' of the consequences of their behavior. The authorities asked everyone to stay in. It was the third night of major rioting. Any decent kid WOULD NOT be biking around and reporting (which is what lots of those youths on bikes were doing) like they were, at that time, in that place. It is as simple as that. I say hurray to the police. Much more of that please. Thus you marginalize the population that is rioting even further. Then it makes it an us vs them problem already more than it has to be. If those kids on bikes were just out "riding around" even if there was a curfew then the action there was completely unnecessary. I don't know the story so I really can't say but the gung ho police mentality you are advocating will absolutely not solve the problem. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 You're right, of course. After all, the 'stand back' attitude really, really, really, really worked on Saturday, Sunday and Monday of last week didnt it. And things really fell apart badly from Tuesday after the police didn't just sit back and watch people throw bricks at them, didn't it. (And any, just how many reported cases like this were there. Answer - hardly any.) Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Seemore has a point though. The 'us and them' mentality is a direct product of the 'sick' society than Gordon Brown talks about. London has the greatest disparity of wealth distribution of any city in Europe. Until these issues are addressed the problem is not going to go away no matter how hard the police crack down is. The response by the police was necessary though to maintain order and it's the duty of any state to do that to keep the citizens safe. Geez,.. what a basket case British society has become. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Gordon Brown.... who? Link to post Share on other sites
mitchpee 10 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Originally Posted By: grungy-gonads You're right, of course. After all, the 'stand back' attitude really, really, really, really worked on Saturday, Sunday and Monday of last week didnt it. And things really fell apart badly from Tuesday after the police didn't just sit back and watch people throw bricks at them, didn't it. (And any, just how many reported cases like this were there. Answer - hardly any.) I don't think building a society based on fear for order is a good idea. Nor do I think extreme measures of violence and a "beat them into subservience" will work. I never advocated a complete "stand back" by any means but an all out wave of violence will only do what I said before...marginalize. Pretty easy lesson to learn from Los Angeles, California is how disparity can really shift the crime rate in a city and riots can erupt from these tensions out of nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Sorry David Cameron. Could've been worse. I could've said John Major. Link to post Share on other sites
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