Go Native 70 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Hasn't snowed much for awhile but the snow 'wall' at Chisenupuri carpark today was still reasonably impressive Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Is there a town area to Sakae or is it just a small community along that road between Tsunan and Nozawa? Link to post Share on other sites
iiyamadude 6 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 SKI, Sakae is a village æ‘ and there is a yakuba Only small place tiny station and basically what's on 117 with a few roads off. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Naruhodo. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
panhead_pete 27 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Hey GN, Im confused and just for the record not taking the piss, just trying to understand how there are such big differences in the base depths and reported snowfall for the season. Is it compaction and wind that plays a big factor is the differences? Link to post Share on other sites
ippy 66 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Oooh! i learned this! go look at the trees the next time your boarding in a relatively untracked area. Youll see the snow kinda curves up the tree. Thats actually a very good indication on how much the snow has bonded and packed. Indirectly it also shows where the snow was, and how much its settled over time. Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 pete it mainly has to do with the predominant types of snow that falls here. At least up here in Niseko the most predominant types of flakes that fall are fernlike stellar dendrites. These are the classic sort of snowflake stylised at Christmas. They have a lot of surface area and the fernlike structure often causes them to interlock with each other as they fall. This is why we often have times when it appears there are these big flakes falling when in fact they are conglomerates of lots of smaller flakes all interlocked together. Anyway a lot of air is trapped in the snow with these sorts of flakes which is what makes it so light and powdery. These flakes are pretty delicate though and as more snow falls on top the layers beneath will compress easily under the weight above. Also any sort of wind or warmer temps will see it all compress very rapidly. If like in Australia for instance where temps at most resorts average considerably higher than here the predominant snow comes down as plates and needles with some dendrites. These types of snow pack down a lot more without so much air trapped in the snowpack so they don't compress nearly as much. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 That's really interesting Go Native. I wonder what the snow that falls in Niigata is called? Any good fancy names for that? Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 The types of flakes that fall are dependent on temperature and humidity mainly. I'm sure you get great quality snow down that way as well but probably at slightly higher altitudes than up here. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 BTW, I wasn't actually being sarcastic there - was a genuine question! Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Not having been down there I'm honestly not sure what types of snow you guys normally get! Link to post Share on other sites
seemore 66 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 GN is actually telling the truth ( That's twice in a day that I have agreed with him ). I read an artical on the plane which went into intricate detail about snow flakes and the different kinds for altitude air temp at altitude , moisture levels and a few other factors. Some guy at Toyko Uni(I think) studies snow flakes. Seemore Link to post Share on other sites
panhead_pete 27 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks guys, especially GN. Really appreciate being taught more. Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Originally Posted By: seemore GN is actually telling the truth I always tell the truth as I see it! Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Snowflake photography brings up some interesting links on google if you have an hour or three to waste. Link to post Share on other sites
MummySkier 0 Posted February 14, 2011 Author Share Posted February 14, 2011 Thanks for the responses all. Very interesting! Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Well not sure what type of snow falls here, but currently it is dumping here in Yamanashi, big fat flakes falling about 10cm on the ground in 3 hours! Will be interesting to see how much we get if it snows all night! Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 same in Shonan....unusually! will be keen to see wot its like when i get up, forecast to be on all night......although with a high of 11 tomorrow, can't see it making it past mid-morning Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 How was it then folks? Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 as predicted, all gone by mid-morning! Actually I slept in for work today and literally jumped outta bed at 8.20 and made a dash for the station, by then it was pretty much all gone, just a wet sticky mess on the pavement. The road isn't even wet now, its like it was just a dream (that probably made me late for work!!) Link to post Share on other sites
snowboard 0 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 What time do you usually get up TB? Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 In the end we got about 15cm where I am just up the mountains in Kofu. But about 5-10 mins up the mountain at Shosenkyo got between 20-50cm of snow. It was knee deep. I will put some pics up in a little while. Still some snow around now here, and lots up higher remaining, but surprising how quick it melted today. Link to post Share on other sites
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