Dims 0 Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 And now they are talking about making him a saint. I didn't know short-sightedness and bloody-mindedness were miracles fit for cannonisation (sp?) A bit of water-to-wine, or "loaves and fishes" action would have been nice at least. Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbird2 0 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Apparently, and incredibly, some of those people lining up to see him are waiting upwards of 9 hours. Link to post Share on other sites
guzzlers-baps 0 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 And they are now saying they expect 4 million pilgrims. What I want to know is --- when does a person become a pilgrim? Link to post Share on other sites
sock_monkey 0 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 when one embarks on a pilgrimage. pil·grim·age ( P ) Pronunciation Key (plgr-mj) n. 1. A journey to a sacred place or shrine. 2. A long journey or search, especially one of exalted purpose or moral significance. Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by sock_monkey: when one embarks on a pilgrimage. 2. A long journey or search, especially one of exalted purpose or moral significance. Walking to the local corner pub to meet up with your mates in the beer garden to talk about the surf and check out girls in summer skirts. Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted April 8, 2005 Share Posted April 8, 2005 A trip to Old Trafford. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted April 20, 2005 Share Posted April 20, 2005 Been in the news a lot hey all this. I see they have this new 78 year old guy up there now. Does anyone on here care at all? Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I don't care, but lots seem to of course. I was just watching the news and looking at him made his speech. That hat and all those clothes. All a bit silly, isn't it. And why does he speak in Latin? Link to post Share on other sites
nzlegend 1 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Benedict XVI - formerly Joesph Ratzinger a.k.a Gods Rottweiller. As an outside observer I was hoping the Cardinals might have had the courage to pick a Latin American - the Honduran Cardinal for example - someone in touch with the modern world and in touch with the people. Instead the took JPII's favorite staunch hardliner and made him the Pope. Satus quo from the Catholic church no change on any of the stances on birth control, condoms in Africa to prevent the spread of Aids, woman clergy etc Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 SG, I thought that Catholics had changed their stance on condoms? No? Of course, I havent been a practicing Catholic for over 15 years so I wouldnt know. Link to post Share on other sites
mfurmane 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Yeah, that Honduran dude seemed pretty cool...I heard some priest on CNN a couple nights back saying how he showed up to be the Keynote speeaker at some college ceremony and instead of giving a lecture he taught the entire audience some traditional Honduran song and dance routine! That's great! I have a feeling that Benedict XVI won't be around too long. Even his brother questions his ability to wake up everyday and do the job. And why is everybody concerned about his stance on things? Who really follows any of it anyway? Is it just because the third world wants Vatican money to pay for birth control? Maybe huh? Link to post Share on other sites
thelovelyjen 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 The zillions of people who are into all this seem to follow it. Or do they just enjoy the showbiz part? Link to post Share on other sites
mfurmane 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I don't know anybody that follows all of it. I know some pretty strict catholics, well...they go to church every week, and they use birth control! Sinners I guess... Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 seems like everything nowadays is like the Jerry Springer Show Link to post Share on other sites
Dims 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by Furm: Is it just because the third world wants Vatican money to pay for birth control? Maybe huh? Keep it up Furm, I am not sure where you come up with these gems The point is that the Catholic faith is, and has always been controlled by guilt. Despite you knowing so-called strict catholics that use birth control, the offical line is that it is a sin and your friends would probably be in the minority. The vast majority of strict catholics are opposed to contraception simply because the church has banned it. I care about the Church's stance on this and other matters because the hard-line approach causes suffering and hardship, especially with the AIDS epidemic in Africa. Even if the Vatican did an about face on birth control, why would the Vatican be expected to pay for it? Maybe I have missed the point? You are right about Benedict though. The guys is 78, already had two major operations and looks like the emperor off Return of the Jedi. The only good thing about him is that he is named after a nice drink. Link to post Share on other sites
mfurmane 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Boy oh boy! Keep what up? Relax. I merely stated that NO catholic I know follows the strict stance of the Pope! Is your point that all Catholics in Africa follow these strict teachings and, therefore, the church is responsible for the aids problem within the Catholic community? Link to post Share on other sites
Dims 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Well I know a fair few that do unfortunately. And this is in a fairly liberal country. Go to latin or south america and some take it very seriously. Yes that is my point, A+ for critcal analysis. I think they are partly responsible, and many agree with me. I am already relaxed thanks, how about you. Note the laughing smiley and take a deep breath. Still haven't answered my question though, why would the Vatican be expected to pay for birth control in Africa? Lifting the ban would be enough. Link to post Share on other sites
fukdane 2 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I like the pic on your member page Dims http://www.snowjapan.com/e/insider/personalpage_list1.php?uid=Dims Link to post Share on other sites
sakebomb 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 That's to good not to be pasted here. Scary resemblance. I agree they should at least lift the ban and be a bit more responsible (or use commonsense) in their actions. Link to post Share on other sites
mfurmane 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 That is a pretty funny picture on your member page!! He's a scary looking man. OK...I just question whether lifting the ban would be enough. The African community currently has no hope in asking the Vatican for financial help now. I think that they would if the Vatican lifted the ban. That is all. Isn't availability of contraceptives in Africa an issue also? Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Call me childish, but I always cracked up seeing the last Poke getting about with that stick with Jeedub crucified on it. (I went to Sunday school with a kid with a speech impediment, and my view of Christianity has obviously been somewhat coloured by that too.) Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I agree. Like royalty, it all just looks so silly. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 For the Catholic faith, an about-turn on the condom issue to stem the spread of AIDS would raise more fundamental issues, and amount to a sanctioning of extra-marital sex, after all condoms within a marriage are only aboout birth-control (the reason for them being banned in the first place). As for funding promiscuity... quite the thread hanging from the vatican gown just waiting to be pulled. (personally, I'd quite like it to be pulled.) Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I think people should only have sex within a marriage. Anything else is just immoral and not nice. and naughty. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by pie-eater: I think people should only have sex within a marriage. Anything else is just immoral and not nice. and naughty. u takin the piss? Link to post Share on other sites
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