Kumapix 0 Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 oh, and the d300 comes out nov.23 Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 yep, saw that this morning kuma, cheers. Interesting article. The d300 is certainly gonna be a big leap up from my d70. But I agree with what he says about only incremental increases. Thursday, WTF!? What is that thing?! Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 lens envy. So no point in me getting the D300 then. Good advice. Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Oi! I've taken about 100 shots with my D40 over the past two days and it's a fine camera. It handles superbly. (Nothing replicates the metallic click-clack precision of my old manual Pentax, though.) Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 fine camera soub. Not the point though. He is referring to how much improvement comes in each new model. Incremental. Not ground-breaking. For the most part. Although, if you skip a generation or two like going from my d70 to the d300, then the improvement will be pretty damn big. My d70 is fine, but I have really noticed where it lacks recently for the kind of pics I am now wanting to take. My expectations have gone up. Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Fair enough. My approach is to let the camera take the shot and do the tweaking in photoshop. I like to shoot stuff rather than spending heaps of time setting up for the photo. That said, I'm planning for some autumn photos next week, and I'm going to re-read the manuel before I go, and take the tripod. Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I don't spend all that much time setting up myself. I tend to shoot first and tweak later. But again, not really my point about my d70. It takes good mostly very good pics, to a point. Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Originally Posted By: soubriquet That said, I'm planning for some autumn photos next week, and I'm going to re-read the manuel before I go, and take the tripod. Got yourself a polarizer filter? Must have for the koyo shots mate Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I almost never tweak. To me, that's not foto taking. I'm trying to improve my foto skills, not my computer click skills. And your cams are about 2 gens behind, so UPGRADE, you'll love the cams even more. (Good one BP, D300 sounds so much fun) (Soubs, do it, you'll never look back. Just like when we talked you into the DSLR in the first place) Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 What kind of tweaking do people do? Changing the colors and stuff? I think I enjoy more the challenge of taking the photo rather than "cheating" later on. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 a bit of cropping and that's about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Kumapix 0 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 I'm pretty sure I posted this before: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/expose-right.shtml expose to the right to maximize the information you're capturing. then normalize the histogram using levels or curves don't forget unsharpen mask to make photos pop Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Despite this idea that "real photography" does not involve tweaking, almost all professionals use photoshop or similar programs to maximize what they have taken. Old school film processing also involved this to some degree. When developing in the dark room, you have a lot of control over exactly how you expose the negative onto the print paper. By tweaking, I myself mean fixing levels and in some cases colours if they are off, cropping and sharpening. Digital pics by nature are a bit softer than needed for printing. Professional photographers almost all apply some kind of sharpening process before printing. Basically what Kuma just said is spot on. It's not cheating at all. Even in the days of film, people took photos that they knew they could expose in various ways later in the dark room for different effect. Link to post Share on other sites
Kumapix 0 Posted November 2, 2007 Author Share Posted November 2, 2007 look up Ansel Adams Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Originally Posted By: brit-gob What kind of tweaking do people do? Changing the colors and stuff? I think I enjoy more the challenge of taking the photo rather than "cheating" later on. As BP said, it's not cheating. Darkroom tweaking has been done since year dot. Excluding remote sensing data, all digital images comprise 1 or 3 blocks of numbers between 0 and 255. As long as it is in focus, not blurred and doesn't have too many 0s and 255s you can do anything you like with one. What I normally do is sharpen (unsharp mask) and stretch. If I want to lift something I get into the colour curves and stretch the values I want. Something like making autumn colours vibrant on a cloudy day is something I can't do in the camera, but I can do it on the computer. Peesh of pish. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 nah.. not the point. Shoot, feel good at the instantaneous replay and then shoot some more. Tweaking? up to your own personal preferences. And mine is to leave it alone. Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 I can focus from infinity to my feet without glasses. Anything closer is a blur. Information on micro screens is totally lost on me. I'm danged if I'm going to let a camera dictate to me whether I wear glasses or not, especially when the viewfinder is set at infinity. Regardless of how you feel about the romance of setting up the shot, a digital image is just a bunch of numbers. As long as it is not under exposed or saturated, you can do anything you want on the computer. That's the beauty of digital imaging. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Saturated sensors conferred, Noisy ISOs endured, Lousy images achieved, Tweak we must so mischiefly. Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I like this one. Totally irrelevant. Link to post Share on other sites
HoTRoD 2 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Was on CNN this morning about Nikon doing well with the lucrative dslr market. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 My dad posted this but it is basically the first ever day I spent climbing in the BC. All the other days were a slide in and slide out. The worse snow shoes ever too. the next day we had a great boot pack and were huffing it up every chance we could. Who knew it would all lead to this! Link to post Share on other sites
Kumapix 0 Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 that outfit is so dope! Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Scott Schmit my hero Link to post Share on other sites
base40 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Great pic soubs - did you take it? Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Haha. I nicked it. That's condensation btw, not smoke. Link to post Share on other sites
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