best skier in hakuba 5 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Wonderful, aren't you clever and successful! I'm sure you don't care for yourself, just other people. Perhaps you could cut your prices or take in refugees seeing as though it's not all about the bottom line. Not really caring about the business aspect, why not cut the bullshit then? Oh I remembered, you can't. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ OZ 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: big-will Originally Posted By: TJ OZ Originally Posted By: IIIII IT is understandable why you want it to 'bounce back' but to compare this to Bali is frankly laughable. I compare it as an event that affected the tourism industry to such a major extent. I am not comparing the catalyst. But, 'the catalyst' is an important point. Fancy going to a place that has been ripped apart by 1000+ earthquakes that are still happening, one of them being one of the biggest ever recorded, followed by a massive tsunami, followed by a serious nuclear disaster, followed by the hype of talk of new quakes on their way (silly as they are). I'm afraid the scale of the two are totally different. I wish it weren't so. It remains to be seen how long term this will affect things, but I can't imagine it not having a really huge impact. How do you compare the psychological affect on foreign tourists in regards to a natural disaster and being targeted by a terrorist group? Ripped apart by 1000+ earthquakes. Very emotive. Not really the case though is it. Do you work for the foreign media. Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: TJ OZ Do you work for the foreign media. Nope. But people not in Japan consume the foreign media. Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: Nisoko So you are promoting it then? I thought you were just posting things as they were. Depends what you mean by promoting. I love the place and I would recommend anyone in the world to come here to enjoy what this region has to offer. I don't need to be paid to think that way. My jobs allowed me to live here, nothing more than that. I have never said anything about Niseko or Hokkaido out of some need to promote the place because of my jobs! I'll leave all the bs marketing hype to those who actually make money from it. God knows I never made much money working here!! Link to post Share on other sites
TJ OZ 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Good to see BS in Hakuba's contributions. Link to post Share on other sites
Nisoko 6 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: Go Native Originally Posted By: Nisoko So you are promoting it then? I thought you were just posting things as they were. Depends what you mean by promoting. I love the place and I would recommend anyone in the world to come here to enjoy what this region has to offer. I don't need to be paid to think that way. My jobs allowed me to live here, nothing more than that. I have never said anything about Niseko or Hokkaido out of some need to promote the place because of my jobs! I'll leave all the bs marketing hype to those who actually make money from it. God knows I never made much money working here!! Link to post Share on other sites
Nisoko 6 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: TJ OZ Good to see BS in Hakuba's contributions. He's more believable than you are mate. Link to post Share on other sites
PWL 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 As much as I loved my trip to Japan, I've got to admit that I would be very wary now. I certainly wouldn't be going ahead and planning a trip for next season now, not yet. When so much is going on, there are just so many other places where 'things aren't going on' that I want to go to. Maybe in a few months things will calm down, but I think this is a real hard hitting event for Japan in terms of it's image overseas. Which is sad. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ OZ 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: PWL As much as I loved my trip to Japan, I've got to admit that I would be very wary now. I certainly wouldn't be going ahead and planning a trip for next season now, not yet. When so much is going on, there are just so many other places where 'things aren't going on' that I want to go to. Maybe in a few months things will calm down, but I think this is a real hard hitting event for Japan in terms of it's image overseas. Which is sad. Hi PWL. Are you able to tell us what you are wary of. As I live here I have a different attachment to the place but I am trying to understand the emotion from an outsiders perspective. Link to post Share on other sites
PWL 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Earthquakes. Earthquakes. Nuclear situation. Earthquakes. Other stuff like transportation, power cuts, supplies. Earthquakes. Holiday destination?! Er, no. I would think it would be blazingly obvious. Link to post Share on other sites
best skier in hakuba 5 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: PWL I would think it would be blazingly obvious. It is. But some people have their heads so stuck up their own backsides spouting off their marketing talk they are blind to anything that is off message. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ OZ 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: PWL Earthquakes. Earthquakes. Nuclear situation. Earthquakes. Other stuff like transportation, power cuts, supplies. Earthquakes. Holiday destination?! Er, no. I would think it would be blazingly obvious. So as the threat of earthquake is ever present in Japan would it be fair to say that you would never return and is this a reason you would not visit for example New Zealand. Not having a go PWL, just trying to get a grasp of peoples feelings. Link to post Share on other sites
PWL 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Look... good luck with it all. I really think you're gonna need it, sorry to say. Europe is my choice next winter. Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: PWL Earthquakes. Earthquakes. Nuclear situation. Earthquakes. Other stuff like transportation, power cuts, supplies. Earthquakes. Holiday destination?! Er, no. I would think it would be blazingly obvious. But don't forget, Niseko and Hakuba don't have earthquakes or nuclear reactors near them either. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Come visit Japan! Mega quakes! Not only the biggest ever, but literally hundreds every week! Nowhere else on earth can you feel thhe constant excitement of these free rides!!!! Breathe in the air of Toyko, just before The Big One shakes you up#, and wonder if it's radioactive. The thrill of the chance!!!! Wonder if your plane will be operating, or if you need a detour to Osaka!!!!!! Play 'find the bread' in the local store and decide whether to drink the milk or not!!!! Wake up at 3am with your bed shaking from a M5.5 off Chiba and play "Guess The Mag!!!!!" Follow the weather reports to see if the wind is blowing south west from Fukushima!!!!!!!! PLEASE COME! Please! Pretty please!! # not guaranteed Link to post Share on other sites
TJ OZ 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: RobBright Originally Posted By: PWL Earthquakes. Earthquakes. Nuclear situation. Earthquakes. Other stuff like transportation, power cuts, supplies. Earthquakes. Holiday destination?! Er, no. I would think it would be blazingly obvious. But don't forget, Niseko and Hakuba don't have earthquakes or nuclear reactors near them either. The Japan Alps were not made from erosion. Not sure where the closest reactor is. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 You crack me up, you really do. The closest reactor is Kashiwazaki, biggest in Japan. The one that leaked a bit after the earthquake in Niigata. Just to the north east of you, not too far from Itoigawa. Don't worry, they fixed it with some sticky back plastic and duct tape. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ OZ 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Just checked and the closest is Niigata and Toyama. It seems they are pretty much evenly spaced throughout Japan which make sense. Link to post Share on other sites
TJ OZ 0 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: pie-eater You crack me up, you really do. The closest reactor is Kashiwazaki, biggest in Japan. The one that leaked a bit after the earthquake in Niigata. Just to the north east of you, not too far from Itoigawa. Don't worry, they fixed it with some sticky back plastic and duct tape. Sorry it is very low on my care factor. I am more likely to die from an electric shock from a faulty appliance than from anything from the source. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Ace. Perhaps you could put that on your Q&A page. Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 pie-eater, I'm surprised you haven't recommended the sticky backed plastic to the folk over in Fukushima.... Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I prefer my "Dome" solution, but alas I see no signs of it being implemented. It would surely be a success in these times of trouble for Japan (but not Niseko or Hakuba, obviously) Link to post Share on other sites
oblivion 5 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: TJ OZ just trying to get a grasp of peoples feelings. Are you just naive, stupid or simply incredibly blinkered? Or a combination of them all? Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Originally Posted By: pie-eater I prefer my "Dome" solution, but alas I see no signs of it being implemented. It would surely be a success in these times of trouble for Japan (but not Niseko or Hakuba, obviously) Draw us a quick plan up please. Am interested in seeing it. Don't forget some holes as well for the gaseous build up to be easily vented. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Well, its like a really big dome thingy that will cover all of the Fukushima plant, making it safe so that we can all cheer and do high-fives. I'm sure some movies have had stuff like this, maybe an episode of Outer Limits and also The Simpsons movie, so perhaps we can get so designs from them. It would deffo work, but I'm not sure about holes, that sounds a bit dodgy. Link to post Share on other sites
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