iiyamadude 6 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Sounds like a good deal that. Best to stay in the Mitsumata area perhaps if you want to try more than one. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Yes taking them all over to Kagura would take some time, how did you check them all our Mick? Pity that portacabin isn't at the base of the actual slopes. Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Rich 78 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Yeah it was a bit of a mission!!! I wanted to try them in some decent snow but I could only find some of that higher up, namely after going up the Mitsumata Ropeway, the Mitsumata High Speed Lift No.1, the Kagura Gondola and the Kagura High Speed Lift No.1!! I made it up there with the first 2 boards but was running out of time and energy by the time I demo'd the Machete, so just did a few laps of the Mitsumata zone for that! Still good fun though! Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Bet you were that's a bit of a trek isn't it. Even just once in a day! (Worse part of Kagura) Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Good idea that. Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Haven´t really found that ONE for POW board yet. Problem is compounded by the numbers of days I get in pow every year and riding in powder is a different game (for me at the mo). Although we pick and choose the day and location (to about 7 out of 10 days is pow), I am yet to experience over the waist deep powder - but I don´t sink that much anyways because I´m light weight. Consider that, and the following issues so I will choose next years snowboard... I ride longer boards in general and float has never been a serious issue for me. 157~159 is my resort board. If I want more float I just have to go faster (so the terrain matters) or I will move my binding back. In pow, these boards do need to be ridden with my weight on the back leg, and that´s were I feel it´s a different game. So I do move the bindings back and forth depending on the day (so I can run a little more centre weighted) , but if I have both (pow and hard) on the same day, and I set the binding for hard pack, I do get nose flips when the terrain changes - not only snow but sudden gradient changes including bumps. The reason I like riding my board on the front foot (from riding hardpack steeps) are that putting pressure on the front makes it easier to turn, and mentally you are ahead of the run. I sometimes feel that the snowboard is following me. I said before that speed helps with float but that is not entirely true. On a short board like 158 with my weight on the front, My nose is gonna dig right after I come out of the turn. So people make these boards for pow by simply putting the binding to the back and widening the board. It helps your nose lift up because your tail sinks, but also you can put more pressure on the front without the nose digging in. But do we all need short Pow-boards with wide nose and waists!? Absolutely No! Especially if you are light weight. Wide nose means less pressure you can put on the front (because you are light) It will pick up more irregular feature of the terrain (like bumps) and amplify that towards the rider. OK. If it is only for powder... Choose a shorter board than normally what you ride. This will really appeal to Skaters. Don´t get me wrong, I really admire and respect skaters having sick balance! Unreal! But I can´t ride like them. The problem is when you want an all mountain, hardpack, ice, deep pow board. I learnt that moving between front and back is not quick enough to adapt. I don´t want to move my binding when I am on the mountain. Here is were the side curve comes into play. Long sidecurve radius will give you a better grip on ice. Narrower waist under 25cm is easier for Lightweights. So longer and narrower boards where I can put the weight on the front without digging in and still the tail sinks, not having to be on the back leg all the time. HA! I think I´ve just convinced myself to buy a long swallowtail. I reckon if the nose floats out, it will be easier to swing it. And imagine being able to go thru flat section - would it? I really wish that the snowboard manufactures design boards by the weight range, not by sex. Would be cool if you can choose your topsheet design. I really like the clear woody look, too. Link to post Share on other sites
zebra 0 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Originally Posted By: Jynxx Here is were the side curve comes into play. Long sidecurve radius will give you a better grip on ice. Narrower waist under 25cm is easier for Lightweights. So longer and narrower boards where I can put the weight on the front without digging in and still the tail sinks, not having to be on the back leg all the time. HA! I think I´ve just convinced myself to buy a long swallowtail. I reckon if the nose floats out, it will be easier to swing it. And imagine being able to go thru flat section - would it? I really wish that the snowboard manufactures design boards by the weight range, not by sex. Would be cool if you can choose your topsheet design. I really like the clear woody look, too. when i've read your words the first thing i've think is: POGO SNOWBOARD:D Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Pogo Shaman length 193cm Width 23.4cm Side curve radius 13m Nose Rocker 43cm Rider weight 65~95kg 1069 Euro Expensive board. Would I ride it? Shit yeah! Check it out! 13m radius and narrow width. This thing will carve. Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Boheme Gun Freeride Length 182 Width 24.3cm Radius 9.9m 990 Euro one from France. Link to post Share on other sites
zebra 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 i've ride the l80 longboard (in europe you can write to their email and then they send you the board you want to test). 180cm, quite narrow, these board have frontback (you must drive pushing on your frontfoot for accellerate and on your backfoot for brake). Really amazing board, lighter, responsive, and they offer you a free lifetime repair service (top, back and edges). You can check the DUPRAZ d1, is wider that pogo boards, but same concept, frontback, longboard and now you can buy at their online shop for 540euro! Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I´ll give it a try next year, giogio. The Pogo Sharman looks great, but if I were to pay a thousand Euros, I would like a perfect board. Meaning, at my weight I´d like that board a little shorter at 180 and still with the 13m radius and narrow waist. Is this the one you rode? Secret Spot 183, 26cm width and 11m radius. Link to post Share on other sites
zebra 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 no, i've ride the L80, is a longoboard type. In powder is a beast but is more allaround board. Of this model they do l70, 170cm, 24.8 waist, 7.5mt radius People that i know have bought a pogo are very satisfied, they have buy the board 10years ago and during this time they've change all their edges and the top of the board. Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Rich 78 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 These are some some sick-looking boards guys - keep 'em coming!! Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Another one then. I reckon this one is for the trees. Can see myself riding it in JaPow. Pogo D-day 169cm Sidecurve radius 12m similar specs to the Shaman, a shorter version. These boards are sleek, without the wide nose. Recommended rider weight 50~90kg Link to post Share on other sites
zebra 0 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 well, try to contact Martin Sammet of pogo and book a test for the next year:D You can test for a weekend for fee (you have to pay only the shipping cost for return the board) of with 100€ you can test the board for a week! Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Rich 78 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 S-w-e-e-t!!! That really looks as though it means business!! Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Real lookers them. Link to post Share on other sites
zebra 0 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Originally Posted By: Jynxx Pogo Shaman length 193cm Width 23.4cm Side curve radius 13m Nose Rocker 43cm Rider weight 65~95kg 1069 Euro Expensive board. Would I ride it? Shit yeah! Check it out! 13m radius and narrow width. This thing will carve. Jynxx they've one used twice for 800€ Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Cheers giorgio ! Link to post Share on other sites
mina2 6 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Originally Posted By: giorgio What's the reason for the shape of the back there anyone? Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 Makes the tail of the board easier to sink in powder without making the tail width narrower. (This is called "taper" of the board) Some people (like me) don´t like too much of a taper because the tail starts sliding on hard pack. This is a generalization, or more like one of the things that can make the tail of the board slide out, but that´s the feel I get. Tapered boards are generally called Pin-Tail. There are basically three ways to make the tail of the board sink in powder. (1)Cut away the delta area and make it into a Swallow-tail (V-tail) (2)Reduce the area by tapering the board and make it into a Pin-Tail (3)Put bindings at the tail of the board so the rider rides at the back of the board with less tail under their weight. All of this is done by either reducing the surface area of the tail/ less resitance from the snow/ increasing pressure per board area from the rider weight and momentum(velocity x your mass). I should say that, instead of making the tail of the board sink in powder, we want to make the nose come out of the powder, not dig into it. hope this helps Link to post Share on other sites
Tex 3 Posted April 29, 2011 Share Posted April 29, 2011 One of each please. Link to post Share on other sites
mina2 6 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I see, I think. Link to post Share on other sites
gnarly-dude 1 Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Put me down for a few too Link to post Share on other sites
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