bobby12 0 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 What I found was passing 2kyu, I started to use it at work and then I can learn without effort - words just absorb as you hear them so often, and you start to remember occasional words you have to look up as you use them often. Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Originally Posted By: Go Native I just wonder how any of you find or justify the time to put the study in. It's very hard here in Niseko as we can really easily get by without ever speaking Japanese. I actually took time off work last year to do a course in Sapporo. 12 months later and I've forgotten most of it because I so rarely use it. Hard to motivate myself to learn it when I virtually never use it. get to a bar and talk to the pretty girls....just make sure the wife stays at home Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I have found that one of the main motivators for guys here to learn the lingo is so they can pick up chicks which is of course one of the main reasons they came to Japan in the first place. Ahh the land of charisma man! And of course it's probably one of the main reasons I have yet to learn the lingo, I'd already found my chick and she's not Japanese... Link to post Share on other sites
frannyo 2 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Time to haul out the chicks photo Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 How many guys you know in Japan that fit this stereotype? Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 arch enemy - Western Women Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 What a hunky burger Link to post Share on other sites
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Zer0star 0 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Originally Posted By: Creek Boy I did 8 through 5, then stopped, or gave up maybe level 5!?! nice! want to hit this after i get the jlpt out of the way. Link to post Share on other sites
7-11 2 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Is there a reason other than wanting something to aim for? Like, job promotion...? Link to post Share on other sites
Zer0star 0 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 i assume you are talking about the jlpt?? yeah, with 1kyu your opportunities for work naturally broaden. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Glad I'm not in a world where that matters! Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Originally Posted By: Zer0star Originally Posted By: Creek Boy I did 8 through 5, then stopped, or gave up maybe level 5!?! nice! want to hit this after i get the jlpt out of the way. its a helluvalot harder than JLPT thats for sure, cuz you have to write each stroke over and over to show you know how to write it. Some people may not know, but if a Kanji has 15 strokes, youd have to write it 15 times to show you know 1-15...PITA!! Pain in the ass!! Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Yep there's no possible way I will ever learn Kanji. I would have to be retired with little else to do in life to put in the time and effort. And that aint happening anytime soon... Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Writing kanji is a complete waste of time. I dont even write english anymore! Penless is the new Paperless. Link to post Share on other sites
Oyuki kigan 0 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Going for 1 this year Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I hardly ever pick up a pen either lately. My writing is looking messier by the year. Too busy to learn Japanese now with not enough incentive. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Originally Posted By: Creek Boy Originally Posted By: Zer0star Originally Posted By: Creek Boy I did 8 through 5, then stopped, or gave up maybe level 5!?! nice! want to hit this after i get the jlpt out of the way. its a helluvalot harder than JLPT thats for sure, cuz you have to write each stroke over and over to show you know how to write it. Some people may not know, but if a Kanji has 15 strokes, youd have to write it 15 times to show you know 1-15...PITA!! Pain in the ass!! Each stroke is in sequence. Get that wrong, then you've written it worng. It's quite logical really. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Silly question perhaps but thursday what is your native language? Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 True Kanji is difficult but so many of them have radicals such as wateræ°´ person人 heart心 in them that once you can confidently do those in the right order and position, Kanji isn't so bad. 怒る okoru used to hate that one even though now it's an easy 10 stroke kanji, just because the parts of it are easy to remember. Now å· screws me up due to getting the balance right. Cursive? Don't intend to or have any wish to start that. Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Looking at okoru in detail, it is quite a humourous one. I miss that kind of discover process you get when learning kanji. ...but not enough to start studying it again Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Yeah, I used that and visual keys to remember Kanji. When I went back to Japan I only knew 10 or 20 . 1056 or something you should know by form 6 (prep school) It was hell .. I never got to learn Kakijyun (correct strokes) Did you know left å·¦ and right å³ has different strokes? That's mad ! Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Now that I haven't written it for 25 years I have problems recalling when I write. I can read the full newspaper though .. Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 Originally Posted By: bobby12 Looking at okoru in detail, it is quite a humourous one. I miss that kind of discover process you get when learning kanji. ...but not enough to start studying it again yep 女 å 心 is how I remember it except on han which doesn't have the left part. The woman's opposite of her heart is a total of angry.î«… Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Rob, that is not "han" it is "mata" åˆ meaning crotch . that makes it. The heart of in between the legs of a woman . Link to post Share on other sites
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