bushpig 0 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 sorry FT, I misunderstood. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 green card holders are treated like the terrorists they are. THe yanks take the piss in human rights and they flaunt it. Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Quote: when you have Ishihara publicly stating he has fears of 'gaijin' rioting in the event of another disater That guy is messed up and has some scary thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites
oblivion 5 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Did he actually say that? Hard to believe. In what circumstances was it said? Link to post Share on other sites
fish&chips 0 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 There was a "Special Report" on the national news just before about foreigners being responsible for all crime in Japan. And getting worse! Or something like that. It lasted about 10 minutes. The reporters looked very concerned. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Originally Posted By: fish&chips There was a "Special Report" on the national news just before about foreigners being responsible for all crime in Japan. And getting worse! Or something like that. It lasted about 10 minutes. The reporters looked very concerned. No wonder, do you know how many foreigners there are in Japan? Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Originally Posted By: Gary This is gonna work flawlessly isnt it? Well, let me tell you about how the Japanese handled my bike getting stolen the other weekend. I went to the Koban to tell them it had gone, and they came and spent 15 minutes measuring exactly where I told them it was - even though I told them I couldnt remember the exact spot. Then it was to the Koban, to fill out a form...simple yeah? More simple even, than getting your fingerprints and photos done at immigration....we filled out the form, they checked my gaijin card and got me to write my name on the form. The young police man filled out what had happened, etc. Then, oh my god, the foreigner cant write Kanji!! He has to write his address and profession! What shall we do?! Cue much sucking through teeth...I tell them, I can recognise a lot of Kanji, and Id probably be able to read and copy what they wrote. So the guy writes out my address and profession and after establishing that I could read what he'd wrote, he asks me to copy it into the miniscule place on the form. OK Great! Done!....Chotto Matte! You wrote your name, first name then family name, but on your gaijin card its the other way around! Mo ichi do onegaishimasu! So we do it all again, but as Id had a few beers, I started writing my name the wrong way round again, I corrected it, but of course, no good! Mo ichi do.... so we do it again, my Kanji is getting quite neat by now, even inside the box smaller than a postage stamp. So we get it all done, it looks perfect! Great! All that remains is for the policeman to put his stamp on it.... which he does, but horror of horrors! It doesnt quite stamp perfectly! Oh my god! Much sucking of teeth, but the young policeman cant make a decision...checks with the boss.... Mo ichi do! So we do it all again. After 2.5 hours, at 2 am, I can finally go home... on foot in the rain! Many apologies from the policeman - it was probably stolen by a Chinese, he informed me, and Ive been informed the same 3 times since by each different Japanese person Ive told. Of course, it couldnt possibly be a Japanese person that did it! This fingerprinting and photos malarky will do nothing to prevent terrorism in Japan, no doubt cause long delays and inconvenience visitors to the country, together with many people who have made a long-term commitment to this country and will only serve to re-enforce the aforementioned prejudices that many Japanese continue to hold against foreigners. sorry about that Gary, I'll put your bike back tommorrow. Couldn't resist it, it was in my genes. Link to post Share on other sites
JeepMix 0 Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 The only thing I really care about it extra time at the airport. Link to post Share on other sites
Davo 1 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I wonder if any countries will exercise a little 'quid pro quo' on Japanese nationals. I hope they do just to make a point but I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites
snowbender 3 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 That would be scandalous Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 Originally Posted By: snowbender That would be scandalous Wouldn't it be nice, but I really doubt it . Australia wouldn't be able to get away with anything like that. Japan have been pretty good to Aussies coming here... offering them 18 mths instead of te 12 months working holiday visa (because so many Japanese go to OZ for WH) If the aussie govt did decide to FP japanese people (because of the dangerous OAM group wouldn't that be a laugh *most Japanese people I talk to are opposed to the new fingerprinting laws... Link to post Share on other sites
tripitaka 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Good news for all resident foreigners who use Narita. If you pre-register your fingerprints and photo, you can join a queue that might even be faster than the Japanese queue. There was a letter in the Japan Times yesterday. Here's the letter: By BARRY DUELL Kawagoe, Saitama In his Nov. 22 letter, "Half-baked antiterror measure," Francisco Menendez writes that "I would be more than glad to offer my biometric data as means of identification" if all Japanese nationals are required to be fingerprinted as well. Menendez will be interested to know that I visited the Tokyo Immigration Office (last week) to register my biometric data in order to use the automatic immigration gate at Narita -- and there were Japanese in line, too. Anyone, foreign or Japanese national, who registers two fingerprints and a facial photo can depart and enter Japan using an automatic gate at Narita (foreigners need a valid e-entry permit). This hopefully solves the obvious problem of how to get a family with mixed nationalities smoothly through immigration. An immigration official told me that such a family that is pre-registered can stand in the same line for using the automatic gates, one for Japanese nationals and the other for foreigners. At the gate, we first scan the bar code on our passport, then we enter a private booth to verify that our fingerprints are the same as those registered for that passport. Japanese are registering their biometric data for the convenience of going through immigration more quickly. We can go through the regular line instead if it looks quicker than the automatic gate. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Guess even thoughI hate it i will be pre scanning my arse! Link to post Share on other sites
tripitaka 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Originally Posted By: Fattwins Guess even thoughI hate it i will be pre scanning my arse! That would be an interesting scenario. Worth it though if you can get through without any BS. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 where do you pre-register? Immigration? Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 I'm going to have to get the lady to check that one out. Link to post Share on other sites
tripitaka 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 At the immigration office at the airport before departure. Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Immigration or the airport, but make sure you're not getting a nite flight cos the airport one closes at 5pm. Link to post Share on other sites
Domokun_72dpi 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 HUH? I arrive @ 8pm, so does that mean queues will be massive for the fingerprinting? Darn It.. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Inbound and outbound would be different. Link to post Share on other sites
projectsplat 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 oh well, some of our people will be going through the process in the next 24 hours, so I will be able to respond back with some first (well, second) hand experience shortly. Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 No domo, I meant for pre-registering, not for entering the country. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Domo - we can't pre-register. We are touro's. I wonder if you have someone travelling on business regularly if they can pre-register. A friend is coming in an out of Niseko every few months.... Link to post Share on other sites
tripitaka 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Originally Posted By: Mamabear Domo - we can't pre-register. We are touro's. I wonder if you have someone travelling on business regularly if they can pre-register. A friend is coming in an out of Niseko every few months.... It depends what visa your friend is on (work, student, spousal, permanent visa, not tourist). At the end of the day, those people have been approved by immigration. I guess there is the possibility they could convert to terrorism while living in Japan. Link to post Share on other sites
i have a blue peter badge 0 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Quote: I guess there is the possibility they could convert to terrorism while living in Japan. Being foreigners, very probable. That or just commit other crimes. Link to post Share on other sites
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