Experiment IV 0 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 How do you rate them compared with, say, in Europe and in the States and other places? When I go I find it quite amusing how relatively many people seem so obsessed with their technique at the expense, so it seems, of having fun. Maybe I've got that wrong... Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 >When I go I find it quite amusing how relatively many people seem so obsessed with their technique at the expense, so it seems, of having fun. Maybe I've got that wrong... I agree Link to post Share on other sites
HoTRoD 2 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 Yes. Good to watch and laugh at though Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted May 12, 2006 Share Posted May 12, 2006 On my school trip to Shiga the past couple of years I cant help but laugh how boring some of the other teachers make skiing My old principal (who retired this March) was an olympic alternate waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day. His technique is perfect(ly boring). We have about 5 other teachers at school who are qualified ski instructors/Patrol etc in Japan but they only go for the perfect S carve...which quite frankly bores the shite outta me. My ski club boys love coming with me during lunch breaks and having me show them some stuff and its nice to hear my ski club boys saying they wish I was their instructor instead of the principal The attitude here needs to progress more (quickly). We need more Endo Junpeis, Okazaki Shoyas, Sasaki Daisukes, and the likes to get Japanese outta the boring carve 10 times, stop, wait, watch 10 people come down, then carve 10 times, stop, wait, bla bla bla... I get bored to tears sometimes watching 99% of the general population skiing here... the 1% are my mates that I ski with and snowboard with Link to post Share on other sites
Oyuki kigan 0 Posted May 13, 2006 Share Posted May 13, 2006 same for snowboarding. I could always pick out a japanese kid riding in Whistler from the lifts. They ride so... seriously. Link to post Share on other sites
base40 0 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Like they're being marked on technique every run! As long as you're having whats fun for you..... Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I sometimes wonder if people are actually enjoying themselves or just being there for some other reason. It's hard to understand what any other reason could be though, unless they're being competitive about it. Link to post Share on other sites
WantToSki 0 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 it being that japanese are so methodological (spelling??)...? everything has to have a system, a set of processes; and this includes skiing.. hhhmmm... Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted May 16, 2006 Share Posted May 16, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by WantToSki: it being that japanese are so methodological (spelling??)...? everything has to have a system, a set of processes; and this includes skiing.. hhhmmm... Can anybody say military?? This country is still run like everybody is in the military. Kiritsu Rei "onegaishimasu" Chakuseki How often do you hear that?? Link to post Share on other sites
WantToSki 0 Posted May 17, 2006 Share Posted May 17, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by Creek Boy: Quote: Originally posted by WantToSki: it being that japanese are so methodological (spelling??)...? everything has to have a system, a set of processes; and this includes skiing.. hhhmmm... Can anybody say military?? This country is still run like everybody is in the military. Kiritsu Rei "onegaishimasu" Chakuseki How often do you hear that?? EVERY work morning in a traditional japanese company (which is the majority) during the CHOREI... Link to post Share on other sites
fukdane 2 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I'm sure glad I don't have to go through that. I thought it was actually uncommon now. Link to post Share on other sites
jgraves 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Actually, most of my western ski buds tend to piss and moan about "shitty" snow conditions on anything but a perfect powder day, my Japanese friends and I have a blast in any snow condition. Hard pack--even ice--is fast and incredibly fun if you actually know how to set a real edge, and that begins with those by-the-book S turns. I often wish more of my "advanced" western friends would take a few lessons and improve their technique so they could keep up and stop bitching so much on those less-than-perfect-powder days. btw: Just because we Westerners are raised to be allergic to discipline and convention doesn't necessarily mean they are bad things. Let's not be petty and racist. Link to post Share on other sites
silly-sausage 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I know what you're saying Tohokubum. I find it hard to love a hard pack icy day though, in some ways I'm jealous of people who can go out there and love that. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 >Let's not be petty and racist. Yup, Im a racist Because some parts of J-skiing bores the $hit outta me Im a racist? What a stooopid comment ta make I love skiing and enjoy all conditions. Doesnt have to be waist deep powder though thats what many people prefer. Bombing down under the lift skiers left of Nescafe at Happo you can see skiers here going one at a time watching their friends make S turns. Not my cup of tea watching everybody come down the mountain one at a time. Maybe the skiers are older, maybe they enjoy the group thing, maybe the long breaks allow them to ski longer cuz they dont have the endurance to ski hard - whatever, thats fine. I give two thumbs up to anybody out there skiing and boarding and having a good time. Just because thats not my cup of tea and take the piss outta em doesnt make me a racist Link to post Share on other sites
its-a-clock 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Sometimes the racist accusation pops up way too esily (generally, not just here). It's as if critisisms are not allowed and always get put into that basket. I often admire how the Japanese go about things. Myself, I'm not interested in 1kyu, 2kyu and the like. I'm just out to have some fun and enjoy myself. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Maybe GWB's influence is stretching out to here too eh? Youre either with us, or against us You either ski with us, or you dont ski at all Link to post Share on other sites
jgraves 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Look CB, I-A-C, Were the comments racist? probably not, but I have seen threads start like that and end up in some really over-the-line comments. Rather than criticise "the Japanese way," and phrasing the criticism (as most gaijin do) as a write-off of the entire (er, excuse me 99% of the) population, why not turn the mirror around and take a critical look at yourself and other westerners. Why do westerners (particularly Americans) tend to be so damn critical of others anyway ? learning to ski properly isn't necessarily about having fun in and of itself, its about unlocking the potential to have even more fun free skiing-- and learning doesn't end when the 30 minute lesson or school ski trip is over. . . Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I know thats not directed at me but still find it funny. Ive been writing on this forum for over 5 years and dont think Ive said anything racist about Japan(ese) nor about other countries, or people on this site for that matter. Think the only person Ive got into with on a few occasions is Ocean11, whos quite fun to argue/debate with - most people are fully aware of his debate skills >"Why do westerners (particularly Americans) tend to be so damn critical of others anyway" Says the pot to the kettle. What? Other nationalities arent critical of others? How many Canadians are on this board and just as critical. Kiwis and Aussies arent critical? HA! Thats funny. You sound quite critical of Americans right now. Geeze, what a racist you are Yes, Im American. Am I cricital? Maybe. Is it harmful or derogatory? Dont think so T.B. Wasnt ever trying to be. Youre absolutely right that having technique is important. no argument there. Its just, and Im sure others notice it too, that sometimes Japanese tend to put too much emphisis on the skill/test rather than just having fun IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites
eskimobasecamp 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Yehhh yehh yehh GO! Someone is having an argument and it's not FT and me... phew! Back to the topic, on the last blast at Happo - the last last last powder day up there at the end of April when it snowed again, i couldn't help but laugh at a whole crew of snowboarders (obviously part of some kind of club) on Kurobishi, who were riding moguls.... like seriously they were in a raceboard mogul club or something... and they kept on stacking it. It was the funniest thing i had seen up there (apart from those pesky formation ski people, who also sometimes like to frequent Kurobishi in their hoards) - and i couldn't help but think they had got it all wrong... ummmmm snowboard + unexpected april pow = probably a spanking good time, compared to trying (badly) to ride moguls on a snowboard. Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by Creek Boy: What? Other nationalities arent critical of others? How many Canadians are on this board and just as critical. Kiwis and Aussies arent critical? HA! What are you implying CB? That us Aussies are critical?!? Geez you Americans give me the shits! Always trying to drag others into your arguments and problems! Can't just keep to yourselves. Also, ever heard of the phrase "Loud American"? Wankers, the lot of you! (pronounced wankas not wankurrs!) Link to post Share on other sites
jgraves 0 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Speaking of moguls at Happo. . . The one and only time I skied there (and there will be no second, except maybe for the bc), the mogul fields looked like this: The entire day, there was literally a person either crashed into or standing on every single mogul waiting for the person below them to get out of the way. It looked like someone had cut a mogul field in the middle of a forest. Now, I am an optimist, but what exactly about such a situation makes anyone think "hmm, looks fun. Think I'll give it go!" ???????????? I guess just part of the price you pay for hosting the Olympics. (cb- 1: I never excluded myself from my comments. 2: critical thinking is the "virtue" that uni's emphasize most in the west, and particularly in the US--no big secret there. The longer I spend with my Japanese friends who do not complain about and criticise every little thing, the more I like it and am trying to emulate it. I'm no Mister Miyagi yet, but at least I'm trying. Let's bury this) 6:33. Time to hit to the trails. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 nice comments F'off bushy T.B., yeah, last post was just takin the piss hence all the and Link to post Share on other sites
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