coolboarderguy 0 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hi All, yesterday, at Kagura, the top lifts were closed. Very disappointing. Although it was snowing reasonably heavily, I didn't think it was that bad. Anyone else out that way who thiks the same. Perhaps it was worse up higher, but, still, seemed a little bit of an over-reaction. Other than that, though, a great day out. Cheers. coolboarderguy... Link to post Share on other sites
AET 0 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Which lifts? If you mean the 1 lift right at the top (which goes higher than the quad), then I think they only open that in spring..... Link to post Share on other sites
coolboarderguy 0 Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hi All, nah, the lifts above the Kagura gondola were closed. Just didn't seem to be any reason for it. Wasn't too windy, from what we could tell. Cheers. coolboarderguy... Link to post Share on other sites
LiquidX 0 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 All closed above the Kagura gondola?? That means basically ALL of Kagura closed (because the gondola only goes to the bottom of Kagura, right)?? They must have had a good reason for doing that...... Link to post Share on other sites
coolboarderguy 0 Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hi All, I guess so...unstable base, perhaps..? Anyone out there got some info on this..? Kinda curious. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
rossirider 0 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 I'm curious too. My only guess is the wind. Though it didn't seem too windy to me yesterday. But if it was anything else, I would think they would have stop people from hiking up. Liquid X - yes all of the Kagura lifts were stopped. Including the single chair that only goes halfway up the main gelende. Link to post Share on other sites
mina2 6 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Never known that before. I'd be pretty mad if all of Kagura were closed when I got there.......... Link to post Share on other sites
rossirider 0 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 I wasn't too happy, the Mitsumata runs get boring pretty quick. I should have left and gone somewhere else....oh well Link to post Share on other sites
mina2 6 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 All they have on their site today is なお、自然状況によりリフト運行状況が変わる場 512;がございますので、お電話にてご確認くださいま せ。 Link to post Share on other sites
7-11 2 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Thats pretty wild for them to close the whole of Kagura up. I've been there in strong winds before and they've never closed the whole place down. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Yeah, the gondoras over at Happo and Goryu47 were closing about 3:30-4 just before N.Ys. Kinda sucked but there was barely enough snow to cover the rocks. A few mates got some HUGE chunks taken outta their boards. Davo got attacked by a great white I think... Link to post Share on other sites
bcoasis 0 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Kagura decision making has generally defied logic; I have sat on that quad when it has been so windy I thought the thing was going to do a loop and yet other times it has been closed when there has been just enough wind to ‘part your hair’. However, the whisper is the management are tearing their hair out over out of bounds riding and the number of ‘idiots’ getting lost or left behind at the end of the day, this season. Short of them finding some solutions to this problem, which I suggest is highly unlikely given their management culture – I suspect on days of heavy snow and bad visibility the quad lift will be non-operandus. Sorry but I don’t consider stopping the lift as an intelligent response to a problem that exists largely because they have kept their head in the sand until it has reached the point where they have lost control. My suggestion to anyone heading to Kagura on a snowy and or windy day is give the office a call and ask them not only is the quad going but is there a possibility it will stop; get the name of the person you talk to. If it’s any different from what you were told by telephone then you can take issue (or not) however you feel appropriate. On a brighter note, the top lift at Naeba has been running most of the time, which I find as hard to believe as the lifties now smiling at customers and saying ‘thank you’. Someone must have changed the water supply. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 toop quad at happo closes at 450 creek boy Link to post Share on other sites
base40 0 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Did you ask them why it was closed? Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 mate, I said before New Years, not post with 3 more TBDs F.F. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 you coming with me this weekend it looks to be sic! F.F. I remember now Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Was in Kagura today. The conditions were just out of this world. 60cm the day before, 40cm overnight and another roughly 40cm during the day today. Whiteout conditions, but does not bother me. What bothers me is that they only opened up to the 2nd gelende, everything else was f..... closed (the entire tashiro section). So put together huge amounts of snow with slopes as steep as my ironing board and you get the the picture, lots of walking across flats, lots of board pumping, etc... Found a couple slopes that were steep enough so that I did not have to take off my board, but barely, and after doing them about 10 times each, it gets a bit old. Conclusion: I will vote with my feet and not go back there boarding during heavy snowfalls unless I am sure that a decent amount of lifts are open. These guys are just stuffing the users. Once you pay at the bottom they do not give a s... Do not make the same mistake I did and ask which lifts are open before you buy ur tickets. Is Naeba any steeper? never been there, and do they tend to close some lifts midweek or during heavy snowfalls? thks. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Lifts close all over the shop during this kind of megastorm. Many of Hakubas do. I hear 47 offered only the park and the lower bit today, while Goryu's gondola didn't move. The no-refund thing is a bitch for sure. Resorts in some countries close for days on end during big storms. Ideally only so much new snow would fall at any one time. 50cm on three non-consecutive days is way better than 150cm in one storm. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 just hope the storm settles so we can get some pow wiggles. Sunday happo or tsugaike? Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by Mr Wiggles: Resorts in some countries close for days on end during big storms. In Switzerland there was about 5 days of white-out blizzard and nearly all lifts shut except lower lifts. Any lift in an area that was hard to patrol under the blizzard conditions was most certainly shut. I had to leave the resort on the morning the lifts re-opened. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 In a 150 cm storm dont expect any resort to open everything cause they cant keep up with the snow. Resorts in Canada will start shuting things during the day if a storm rolls in. Link to post Share on other sites
joshnii 2 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 SerreChe --- why didn't you check with the resort before you bought the ticket? Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Joshnii, you are absolutely right (please see my earlier quote). I should have, but I did not think that almost everything would be closed or that it would be closed the whole day. Also, you can be certain that they do not advertise the fact that almost the entire resort is closed before you buy your ticket. The bottom line is: If there is a heavy snowfall, you are a boarder and only up to the second Gelende is open, then do not go to Kagura unless you are a beginner or enjoy carrying you board under your arm for long distances. That is my humble opinion. In different circumstances Kagura is great when the steeper sections are open. Where I come from, lifts get closed when there is too much wind but not too much snow (except for one exceptional year when it had snowed so much that they had to dig a channel for the gelende's cabins to go through...) except for areas where avalanche control is done through the use of explosives and usually not for more than half a day (and these slopes are closed after the snowfall as well, not during, even for large dumps). A nearby resort has no grooming and no patrol and it NEVER closes during large snowfalls. I guess it all depends on the specific resort's management philosophy. One problem though with european resorts these days is very often not enough snow! So I am quite spoiled to complain about the side effects of too much snow. Joshnii, since you are from Nigata, which resort would you recommend nearby Kagura when heavy snowfalls pose the problem mentionned earlier? Link to post Share on other sites
Wizz 11 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I think it is extremely rare this happening - I have never heard of them closing all of Kagura before. Don't think it is common at all. Link to post Share on other sites
TheOrange 0 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Does Gala close down a lot in strong winds? Link to post Share on other sites
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