woywoy 0 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 http://www.harmonyresorts.com You wont see me there any more ... Three trips in 1999, 2000 and 2001 are enough. How much has changed in those 5 years! Roppongi nightlife in Hokkaido somehow doesnt turn me on. Link to post Share on other sites
powwwers 0 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 sad indeed! Link to post Share on other sites
I'm Sexy 0 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 What is sad? Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Whats sad is the fact that the magical days of Niseko are gone. No more endless powder even mid-afternoon. Now, all the powder is gone before 11am. Too many foreigners, especially the ones who come here to get powder, drink like fish, fight, and add further damage to the already sterotypical views J-peeps have of gaijin. The Niseko I knew and loved is gone. Link to post Share on other sites
sakebomb 0 Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 Beautiful video, love the quotes- "It's uncrowded"- about 5 years ago maybe? "Deep Powder"- if you get up at 4 in the morning to beat the crowds which will pack it down nicely by 11am. "It's even stunning in summer"- as we repair the damage caused in winter by hoards of drunken foreigners with little or no respect for different cultures. Maybe I should book now to avoid the rush? Link to post Share on other sites
sava 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I seriously don't understand who they aim to attract - I would have thought most aussies would be turned off by something like that. Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 A fair few seem to love it to death though, don't they.... Link to post Share on other sites
fb_steve 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 and hanazano is flat! Link to post Share on other sites
jared 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 What a bunch of drama queens. Its not nearly as bad as you are all making out. Its pretty hard to not have a good time if you go there. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Don't you think it's good that Niseko now has it's own Japanesque logo? A quick flick through the site suggests rather heavy stress on skiing - I didn't see the word 'snowboard', or a picture of a snowboarder on any of the pages I saw. Link to post Share on other sites
sava 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Stag: I agree with you, my complaint is with the site --- I think their marketing manager /website designer needs to be fired. Link to post Share on other sites
sava 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Incidentaly, there is a snowboarder in the opening flash thingy Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I like this page best. "Imagine walking deep into the forest, reading wild animal tracks and listening to the sounds of the wilderness….the secret nature of the Hanazono area comprises of beautiful natural forest." Won't that be the sound of "the guest seeking a more dynamic experience" on the nearby pollutionmobile racetrack? It'll also be the sound of twangy accents that can't quite get the hang of proper English usage. "The tour includes ... shoes and a tour guide." Shoes are very important on this tour, one gathers. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by Captain Stag: What a bunch of drama queens. Its not nearly as bad as you are all making out. Its pretty hard to not have a good time if you go there. Sure, nothing has changed there in the 6 years Ive been skiing there Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I'm glad to have the memories of what it was but I'm not going again (unless someone pays me to) because there are better places that have not been as discovered and spoilt as up there. Sounds like it's turning into some kind of circus. No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
evolution 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 The story of Niseko is not unlike what happened to the magical waves of Bali. After being discovered by Aussies, it was soon marketed and built upon. Bali has always been a place for young aussies to go and party. It seems Niseko is the winter version of Bali. But for those who seek adventure, the returns are great. Maybe we should let niseko be and challenge ourselves to find something new. There is much more to Japan than Niseko Hirafu. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 If it takes off its good for the locals who were just hanging in there. I never could see myself at niseko anyways. Link to post Share on other sites
jared 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Yamakashi, if I had wanted to say "Yamakashi, nothing in Niseko has changed in the last 6 years that you have been skiing there" I would have said "Yamakashi, nothing in Niseko has changed in the last 6 years that you have been skiing there" but I didnt want to say that because that isn't true. what I wanted to say was "Its not nearly as bad as you are all making out." so to do that I typed "Its not nearly as bad as you are all making out." and a few rolling eyes right back at ya and one of these for good measure Link to post Share on other sites
js 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by Ocean11: Won't that be the sound of "the guest seeking a more dynamic experience" on the nearby pollutionmobile racetrack? It'll also be the sound of twangy accents that can't quite get the hang of proper English usage. Surely you must be referring to the NZ'ers? Perhaps it's just the regular fly in Yanks from Guam/Hawaii, and the odd UK/US person not content with skiing 'their part of the world'? Change is inevitable when a place is advertised and marketed - it boils down to the Japanese politicians managing the situation for their peoples' needs. I hope they get it right and don't let the area be bought out by foreigners. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Are there lots of fights every night in Niseko? You people make it sound like the Wild West! That Niseko bloke is no Victor Kiam, is he. He should pay someone else to do his advertising. If they're charging one million yen for a fake woodstove in their MDF and breezeblock apartments, you would think they could afford someone a bit more slick. Seriously though, if anyone is coming to Japan at Christmas, Hokkaido is your best bet for decent snow. It can still be well ropey on Honshu. If you're sick of Niseko, there are other places in Hokkaido, you know. Link to post Share on other sites
r45 4 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Yeah and my rates in Furano will be cheap. (Just kidding by the way before I get the mails!) Link to post Share on other sites
evolution 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 There must b good hills and snow in Russia ??? Anyone like vodka ? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 That add looked more like it was being marketed towards the 40 something and above group. I have a feeling hanazono will be the pricey side and hirafu will be the budget side. The avie control bit made me laugh though. Link to post Share on other sites
jared 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I had a good look for the avie control bit but I didnt see it - where did you find it? They could have made the site a bit easier to navigate. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 avie safety sorry my butt. unless you actively control it you cant call it safety. http://www.harmonyresorts.com/winter_video_streaming.htm Link to post Share on other sites
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