DumbStick 13 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 We moved into our house yesterday. Some bloke 'from the NHK' came round literally as we closed the door asking for cash. Told him to go away are our heads were exploding and we were as tired as a person could be and were unable to talk. The git just came back just now. Who are these people? Do they lie waiting to pounce? Are they NHK employees or do-goody neighbourhood people commissioned by NHK to ambush newcomers? I'd have much more patience if they came round a bit after we had moved in, and not come back the next day when we were clearly moving in yesterday. As it is, he has right royally pissed me off with the total disregard to our situation he has shown. And what's the situation with this? Are we legally required to pay? Or can we simply refuse? (Legally)? Got my back right up this has. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Yes, you're supposed to pay. I understand there is not much they can do if you don't, but we do pay. NHK has just about the only decent programming on some days. Do be careful about what you are paying for, though. There is a basic fee for the standard broadcast NHK, then a separate (much higher) fee for the BS cable channels. We don't get cable, so don't have to pay the second fee. But if you have any kind of cable service, the BS channels pretty much come automatically. Though I think if you don't pay the BS fee, they simply block part of the screen with a box of text or something, so maybe that one is optional? Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 Thanks Metabo. Actually we (esp. my lady) do probably watch NHK more than most other stuff, but I just wanted to know what the situation is here. Like I said, this blokes attitude and actions have just annoyed me big time. Being extremely tired has not helped. He has made me more inclined to not want to pay if I don't actually need to. Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It is not very nice of him to be so unpleasant. Oh, but congratulations on moving in! Link to post Share on other sites
Karnidge 2 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The topic subject is a good question too. Who are they? Link to post Share on other sites
teikiatsulover 6 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 By law we are Allred required to pay, NHK was smart enough to bribe some politician to get it passed as a law, but too stupid to think that the law must be enforced, so there is nothing that NHK can do to you to make you pay for it. We don't pay, and unless the law changes, we never will. Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 That is not very nice of NHK to just turn up at your house and demand payment when you just moved in. They got no manners or respect. We haven't had that problem here though, because we only got Hikari TV. Not bothered to even get the cable TV connected, because except for the news there is nothing worth watching on normal TV anyway, just eating competitions, shouting, crappy game shows, more shouting, adverts by the millions and more shouting!!! There are a couple of programmes my daughter likes to watch, but they can all be viewed on the internet anyway. If the NHK dudes came around here though asking for money when we had just moved in they would not have received a very warm reception at all. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 We haven't had that problem here though, because we only got Hikari TV. Not bothered to even get the cable TV connected, because except for the news there is nothing worth watching on normal TV anyway, just eating competitions, shouting, crappy game shows, more shouting, adverts by the millions and more shouting!!! There are a couple of programmes my daughter likes to watch, but they can all be viewed on the internet anyway. If the NHK dudes came around here though asking for money when we had just moved in they would not have received a very warm reception at all. Your points are actually irrelevant. Own a tv, you should pay NHK - whether you actually watch it or not. I'm not saying it's an abetastic idea, but that's the 'deal' (that you don't agree with!). Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander L 80 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Just like the TV license to fund the BBC. How wonderful. Ex Jimmy's ex driver would be most pleased to have been supported by it for so many years. Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 We haven't had that problem here though, because we only got Hikari TV. Not bothered to even get the cable TV connected, because except for the news there is nothing worth watching on normal TV anyway, just eating competitions, shouting, crappy game shows, more shouting, adverts by the millions and more shouting!!! There are a couple of programmes my daughter likes to watch, but they can all be viewed on the internet anyway. If the NHK dudes came around here though asking for money when we had just moved in they would not have received a very warm reception at all. Your points are actually irrelevant. Own a tv, you should pay NHK. I'm not saying it's an abetastic idea, but that's the 'deal' (that you don't agree with!). I disagree, I don't have NHK, I only have Hikari TV, which I am paying for per month. I only need to pay for NHK if I indeed am using their broadcast which I am not, I don't even have a TV cable connected to my house so why the hell would I need to pay for it? If I actually viewed their programmes (NHK) then yes I would expect to pay, if they asked extremely nicely, but not when I am not even connected to any wires. No way! Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 As far as I know, you have a tv in the house = you are down for NHK payment. You don't have to like it or agree with it. Different issue...can you (if you so wished) get NHK via this 'hikari' you talk of? Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Tell them to f@@k off Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Just guessing but on the evidence given, the guy was lying in wait and is one of your new neighbours or good mates with an overly gossipy one of them. Perhaps you use the polite form, "f@@k off de gozaimasu". Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 We haven't had that problem here though, because we only got Hikari TV. Not bothered to even get the cable TV connected, because except for the news there is nothing worth watching on normal TV anyway, just eating competitions, shouting, crappy game shows, more shouting, adverts by the millions and more shouting!!! There are a couple of programmes my daughter likes to watch, but they can all be viewed on the internet anyway. If the NHK dudes came around here though asking for money when we had just moved in they would not have received a very warm reception at all. Your points are actually irrelevant. Own a tv, you should pay NHK. I'm not saying it's an abetastic idea, but that's the 'deal' (that you don't agree with!). I disagree, I don't have NHK, I only have Hikari TV, which I am paying for per month. I only need to pay for NHK if I indeed am using their broadcast which I am not, I don't even have a TV cable connected to my house so why the hell would I need to pay for it? If I actually viewed their programmes (NHK) then yes I would expect to pay, if they asked extremely nicely, but not when I am not even connected to any wires. No way! It doesn't matter if you watch NHK or not. That argument will not fly with the NHK guy. The only valid argument you can make is that you don't own a television set. Why should I pay the TV Receiving Fee to NHK simply because I own a TV set? The Broadcast Law of Japan (1950) applies to all residents of Japan, regardless of nationality. NHK is established under this law as a public broadcaster operated on the basis of receiving fees levied fairly on all viewers. Every owner of a television set is thereby required by law to enter into a Broadcast Receiving Contract with NHK and pay the appropriate receiving fee. From the website: http://pid.nhk.or.jp...ingual/english/ In fact, this vaguely worded law seems to indicate that you don't even have to own a television. They could probably ding you for having a computer which is capable of receiving the NHK broadcast (but not a radio...) Legal Basis for the Broadcast Receiving Contract Article 64 of the Broadcast Law (Receiving Contract and Receiving Fee) ARTICLE 64. Any person who has installed receiving equipment capable of receiving the broadcasting provided by NHK shall conclude a contract with NHK with regard to the reception of its broadcasting. However, this shall not apply to those who have installed receiving equipment not intended for the reception of broadcasting, or receiving equipment solely for the reception of radio broadcasting or multiplex broadcasting (broadcasting of voice and other sound transmissions not coming under television broadcasting and multiplex broadcasting classifications; the same shall apply to Article 126 paragraph 1). Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It does fly......I've said it to the NHK guy everytime I've moved house and he's appeared at the door.....just before telling him to f@@k off and slammed the door in his face Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Actually, it's probably the fact that you are being an abrasive asshole that does it. The alternative to being an abrasive asshole is politely telling him you don't have a television and asking him to leave. Why do you have to give the guy a hard time for doing his job? What, he doesn't have feelings or deserve respect just because his job is collecting for NHK? Link to post Share on other sites
@tokyo 14 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 He could choose a different job! But the guy that DumbStick dealt with does sound like an arsehole. Link to post Share on other sites
7-11 2 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 The whole concept is messed up. And I would be pissed if a guy came up on the first two days in my new house as well. Talk about going about it entirely the wrong way. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Actually, it's probably the fact that you are being an abrasive asshole that does it. The alternative to being an abrasive asshole is politely telling him you don't have a television and asking him to leave. Why do you have to give the guy a hard time for doing his job? What, he doesn't have feelings or deserve respect just because his job is collecting for NHK? Do I give a shit if he's just doing his job? Not one iota.....he can go and do it elsewhere. Be an abrasive asshole once and he never darkens ur door again, be nice n polite he'll check back in in a regular basis Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 I don't lie about not having a tv or anything...in fact, I hope they can hear it in the background. What I do tell them is....... Despite knowing that the law states that I must pay.... I refuse to pay any funds to a company as corrupt, misled and misguided as NHK is. Also, this is 2013 and these collection methods are akin to a Yakuza shakedown and until the stated "law" becomes enforceable I WILL NOT be paying. We are done...have a nice day. Link to post Share on other sites
7-11 2 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 What is an iota anyway? Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 About this "." much.. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Isn't it a State in the US of A? Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Nah, it's what a footie fan answers when the doctor tells him to stop the binge drinking Link to post Share on other sites
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