BagOfCrisps 24 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 They do look rather good Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Pretty... but dumber than a bag of nails... Link to post Share on other sites
gnarly-dude 1 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 don't you just hate it when your issue gets shunted around and each new person is basically starting from scratch. I know the frustrating there. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Are they British and do they read the Daily Mail or the Daily Express? No, not this. Any idea why? My own parents read those newspapers and the message is an unrelenting "country is going to the dogs" one. They are very depressing to read. Much more so than simply watching tv news even. Link to post Share on other sites
nagoid 4 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 I really don't know. Just seems to be a general 'when you get old' thing to me. I want to know how to avoid it though. I'll keep away from those 'news'papers. Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander L 80 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I don't really think you can avoid it. It's all relative to your own and others's changing standards. Example: When dining I would appreciate the time I have with my friends and family. We'd talk, drink, engage. What I saw today I just found absolutely unacceptable. In the restaurant, on the table next to ours was a group of 3 couples all over 40 as far as I could tell. After greeting each other, they ordered, settled down and fell silent. Why did they fall silent? Each person was engaged with their smartphones. All six adults had withdrawn into their cyberspace while waiting for their meal to arrive. I just shook my head. What is this world turning into. (<-grumpy feelings) Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I think this is possibly the first time I've ever agreed with ya Thursday.... . But yes....I agree. Link to post Share on other sites
JellyBelly 1 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 They were probably texting each other as well. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I really don't know. Just seems to be a general 'when you get old' thing to me. I want to know how to avoid it though. I'll keep away from those 'news'papers. My own folks have been worn down by a combination of health niggles and in my mother's case, a bad experience with the old people's home my grandmother was in and the way it was handled by them and the authorities. Those newspapers aren't a main cause, but they do provide plenty of bad news to talk about, especially stuff about immigrants. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I just did a search on AXA and I got this In conclusion, I like AXA I like AXA too. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I really don't know. Just seems to be a general 'when you get old' thing to me. I want to know how to avoid it though. I'll keep away from those 'news'papers. My own folks have been worn down by a combination of health niggles and in my mother's case, a bad experience with the old people's home my grandmother was in and the way it was handled by them and the authorities. Those newspapers aren't a main cause, but they do provide plenty of bad news to talk about, especially stuff about immigrants. You're right they are not the main cause but they almost encourage a bleak outlook on life and peddle poison. They really do have a lot to answer for. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 If present day oldies are grumpy, get them to look at what is coming for people retiring soon or in the future. Compared to three years ago, the same pension (annuity) now costs 30% more compared to three years ago. Or more realistically, the same savings will get you whatever the sum is, I guess 3/13 less, per week to retire on. http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2013/apr/23/falling-annuity-rates-cost-retirement Link to post Share on other sites
7-11 2 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Funny how there's the grumpy bit, but there's also the "wouldn't like to be young now"... er... grumpiness at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander L 80 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I can see why being young, out of university and not in work can be damn miserable. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Absolutely, there's a lot of bright people without jobs and obvious and immediate prospects right at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander L 80 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Not saying bright. Just saying a lot of university graduates not getting on the job ladder. And that would be very depressing for those concerned. Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Quite a few not on the "job ladder" are there because they chose to do an "easy" degree that has no specific outcome intent. Apocryphal stories around Aus about Arts grads (you know with a BA in nothing coherent) driving taxis. The reason is because their degree has no employment focus. Far too many degrees with too many options and nowhere to go when finished. For many, though, a degree is not their best employment option. Their better choice would be to go into the trades (building, plumbing, sparky etc) because these people are ALWAYS in demand, and will always make more money that many degree qualified people over their lifetime. Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 What is this 'job ladder' you speak of? When I did my degree I was only doing subjects that I found interesting. It had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with getting a job at the end of it. In fact during my university years getting a job was something I never really thought much about at all. I knew I wanted to travel lots after uni and that's what I did. Some of us just haven't spent their lives worrying about working and careers. Most of the guys who left their home countries to come live in Japan are like that. It's not like teaching english is an awesome career choice now is it? For most it's just a way to get the visa to let you live in Japan. I didn't work in a ski resort for 7 years because it was a good career move. I did it because I've never given a toss about career but I had always wanted to live in a ski resort. We didn't buy a nursery business because I have any great desire to be a big, successful business person. We did it because it's an industry and work that we both enjoy. Getting an education though is something I'll never regret and is something, regardless of your career path afterwards, I believe is very worthwhile. Working for a living has never been something I've found overly worthwhile. It's just a necessary pain in the butt. Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 The one that lots of people have traditionally climbed (or not), perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 What is this 'job ladder' you speak of? When I did my degree I was only doing subjects that I found interesting. It had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with getting a job at the end of it. In fact during my university years getting a job was something I never really thought much about at all. I knew I wanted to travel lots after uni and that's what I did. Some of us just haven't spent their lives worrying about working and careers. Most of the guys who left their home countries to come live in Japan are like that. It's not like teaching english is an awesome career choice now is it? For most it's just a way to get the visa to let you live in Japan. I didn't work in a ski resort for 7 years because it was a good career move. I did it because I've never given a toss about career but I had always wanted to live in a ski resort. We didn't buy a nursery business because I have any great desire to be a big, successful business person. We did it because it's an industry and work that we both enjoy. Getting an education though is something I'll never regret and is something, regardless of your career path afterwards, I believe is very worthwhile. Working for a living has never been something I've found overly worthwhile. It's just a necessary pain in the butt. I don't actually think that JA was specifically talking about your good fine self, Go Native. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I did the same at Uni......studied something that I was interested in but didn't really think it would be my career path. Thats because I had no idea what i wanted to be, I wanted to travel as well. Teaching english sucks ass, but again I don't know what else I can do over here that would be more interesting. Its not the actual teaching that bothers me TBH, I love working with the kids, its more the thought of work that bugs me, so on that note I probably wouldn't be happy doing anything!! University......its not for everyone, sometimes I wish I had done what JA suggested and got a trade instead but then i wouldn't have come over here, I probably wouldn't have travelled to as many countries and I'd probably be stuck at home doing the same things I always did......like the rest of my mates. Horses for courses Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I got a marine biology specific BSc...... After my English classes I can take the kiddy classes across the street to the beach and really impress them in my prowess around the tidal pools. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 A sample of dudes living on the other side of the world to their home country, and an extremely different culture at that, is never going to be a representative sample of the general public is it. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 There are plenty of underemployed tradesmen in the UK now. My cousin, for example. He already does work at both ends of the country so "getting on his bike" or whatever is an exhausted option. Just wait till housing crashes in Australia and the same thing will happen there. That said, I doubt I'll want to pay for my kids to do arts degrees. Not unless they are very very good at them. I'll try and push them into something more vocational. At least tack on an education subsid so they can teach. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 My daughter's future education costs are already squared away from her grandmother here in Japan but I'm not really a proponent of the parents/grandparents paying for it all. I payed my way although my parents were always there if I really needed them to help out with my rent or unexpected costs and the like. My loans were pretty hefty but I paid them off and I think it made me better for it. In hindsight I should have gone to the trades and not the academic route. Link to post Share on other sites
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