SKI 15 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 That's just what snowboarders want to think. Simple folk! Link to post Share on other sites
ILoveZao 8 Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I think the question should be - which is more fun. After all that's what it's about, right? Definitely. I went through a period once of actually not really enjoying the skiing. It was all about technique and not much about fun. I decided to snap out of that particular mindset and now it is 100% about fun. Link to post Share on other sites
scree 0 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I've been skiing until now but last year had a go on a snowboard, found it surprisingly easy. Had a lot of fun as well. Not sure how much me being skiing had to do with the ease compared to someone new coming to it. I think I might mix it up again next winter given the chance. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Probably used to skiing and as boarding is so much easier... Link to post Share on other sites
clips 0 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I have been skiing for the best part of 20 years and a few years took up boarding. Within a day I was doing all right. Found the new sensation quite fun actually. I switch around now and enjoy both. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I've been skiing until now but last year had a go on a snowboard, found it surprisingly easy. Had a lot of fun as well. Not sure how much me being skiing had to do with the ease compared to someone new coming to it.I think I might mix it up again next winter given the chance. I'd say a fair bit of crossover knowledge.Snowboard Instructor son has been picking skiing up at lightening fast pace. Link to post Share on other sites
klingon 10 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I'm sure one of the reasons for that though, Mamabear, is his high level of intelligence. Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 JA's back catalogue Nah ... well before I started skiing! IIRC they are cross country racing skis, aka "toothpicks". Never had a go, and no real desire to! Anyway, why you pickin' on me for? What did I ever do to you to deserve that? Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 not really as snowboarding would win without a discussion!! Only if you "enjoy" spending a whole lot of your life sitting on your bum in the cold! Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 not really as snowboarding would win without a discussion!! Only if you "enjoy" spending a whole lot of your life sitting on your bum in the cold! who sits on thier bum?I do up my bindings while standing, and if I stop on a run to wait for buddy's I wait on my knees looking back UP the slope. Never never never sit with my back to the oncoming skiers/boarders. I value my kidneys! Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Yeah, but we all know mama bears are smarter than the average bear! Next time you get off a lift, look at the "roadblocks" just at the edge of the offload area - they'll be boarders sitting on their bums strapping in and covering the whole entire exit run (or at least better than 80% of it!) Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 To be fair, I see plenty of skiers also standing in clumps and blocking exits...wannabe boarders, I always figure. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Amen DiGriz! And normally blocking the entire crest of the hill so a boarder is either called a tool for squeezing through them, or has to stop, unclip and scooch up politely saying excuse me...wtf! Had a pair of skiers 'walk' across the very base of the fixed pair ramp in Thredbo last week, no kidding...could not have got closer to it if they tried. Where did they think we could go other than right into them? A hard toe edge right from me, and an excuse me to get them to shuffle faster from my buddy plus a hard right meant there was no carnage...but Srsly? Six of one, half dozen of the other...inconsiderate is inconsiderate, board or ski. Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I figure we all have our moments when we fail to practice consideration, but some people seem to make a career out of it...skiers/boarders/drivers./pedestrians/cyclists, doesn't matter. It's just the 10% rule. Link to post Share on other sites
7-11 2 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 A very well considered point there, DiGriz. Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Rule of thumb I learned from a wise old sergeant Link to post Share on other sites
Jason's argonaut 0 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I chose boarding basically because it looked easier. And more fun. I think I might have been right. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmer 2 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I really don't think there's much difference between the two in terms of difficulty. Yes the first day or two of boarding might be difficult if you are not athletic, but if you're not athletic, you're not going to be very good at skiing either. I instruct both, and people tend to get a bit further on boards earlier, but that's because it's easier to just slide on your heels down a steep slope than make a wedge if you are nervous about turning. Personally I prefer skiing because it's what I am better at, and snowboards just aren't as good for accessing back/slackcountry as skis, you can't traverse as well, you can't deal with flats as well, and you can't really skin easily either, though split boards are apparently getting better. Boarding powder is definitely easier than skiing powder though, even with fat skis. Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 it's easier to just slide on your heels down a steep slope Link to post Share on other sites
alexeiw123 2 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I learned to do both (skiing first and at a younger age) and thankfully settled on the only correct choice. skiing. but that's a different story. I think as a beginner skiing is easier, as you can stand up and slide with very little instruction. the transition from that to making slow plow turns is a relatively easy one. The beginner stages of snowboarding is awful really, it is difficult to stand, seems impossible to turn, and the slightest error sees you catching the edge and putting you right back to where you belong. On the flip side, once you are past beginner stages and can control yourself competently, the transition to advanced skiing is a rather difficult one, with a lot of fine points to be learned, and I felt that snowboarding at a higher level came quickly after those first few days. my 2 cents Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmer 2 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 it's easier to just slide on your heels down a steep slope Haha, I'm talking more about the part on Aspen/Green in Hirafu after windy corner, than overterraining students down anything that anyone would care about getting scraped off. Hirafu's so flat that a bigger problem is boarders traversing the hell out of the place. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 What do you mean by that Jimmer? "Boarders traversing the hell out of the place" I would have thought the only people really inconvenienced by flat area traversing would be the boarder themselves, and that it occurs in places where it is fairly inconsequential to the snow cover...? Flat spot between Hanazono restaurant and the lift. Holiday run back from Hanazono to Gondola station. The last little bit back up to the hooded triple. Bottom of Konayuki to skiers left (ok, maybe that would tick skiers off as that is quite a powder pocket) Most inbounds places, if you get stuck something went wrong. Or are you talking about outside the resort? Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmer 2 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The bit that annoys me most is gate 4, where lazier/less skilled boarders traverse progressively lower and lower, resulting in crossing a bunch of traverse lines at the start of the run. Less of a problem, but still a problem, is people who start at the top of super ridge and just traverse their way down to the base of super. I understand a bit there, as it's a short run if you ski it fall-line, and it is off camber, but really people should traverse to the section they want along the top, then ski it fall-line. It's a problem more in Hirafu because it's flat, where I am now (Chile), if boarders can't traverse properly in some sections, they tumble over a selection of cliffs, that seems to be incentive enough for everyone to behave properly. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 So by traversing you mean side slipping on heel or toe edge across the face of a steep slope causing tracks across your powder, rather than scooching along a flat with your back foot out because it is so flat? So the criticism of Niseko being 'flat' causing this problem comes in where? I get it that it is annoying that virgin deep pow gets tracked widely across rather than lots of narrow tracks allowing the virgin pow expereince to last longer, but that happens everywhere, and offenders can be on two planks as well....seen it done numerous times, people using the entire open width to carve out thier track that everyone else then has to ski through. Meh! Part of the expereince. Link to post Share on other sites
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