worst skier in niseko 0 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 OK so the answer might be totally obvious, but maybe not. I will find out. What are the best conditions for beginners who ski like a newborn giraffe tries to stand up? Fluffy powder? I can see that being good for falling over on, but what about skiing? Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Nicely groomed corduroy. Fluffy powder is a nightmare for beginners. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Keep away from ice too! Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Totally agree with BM. But powder helps because it´s easier to turn. Wet heavy snow is not good. Some people argue, because one is a beginner so it´s better that they don´t slide easy. Bullshit. Wax your skis. Bend your knees. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I board - so weighing in on this debate is pretty silly...BUT FWIW I would say a nice soft fresh groomed cover over the top of firm but not icy piste is the way to go. Some advanced skiers balk in deep powder - it can take some getting used to. And ice is no ones friend. Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 freshly groomed slopes - avoid powder if you don't know what you are doing. Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I like Mamabear´s description. Really depends what people mean by powder. Since the OP is "worst skier in Niseko" I reckon the powder snow in Niseko is great to learn, in that situation. A little surface coating on groomed Link to post Share on other sites
Schneebored 0 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Yeah second mamabears comments. Link to post Share on other sites
rider69 18 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Nice sunny day. Hard conditions with grip. Powder will push or pull your skis or board around so stay clear of it. Dont fear ice. Ice will show you how to hold an edge. Some of the best riders in the world come from east coast ice. Get the right skis or board to learn on. Dont go too long in length keep it nice and short. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Is it "FUN" you are wanting, worst skier? If so, avoid ice. Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Regardless of the snow conditions if you want to enjoy yourself then invest in some private lessons. After a few days of one on one lessons the rest of the season will be so much more enjoyable. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Originally Posted By: SKI Is it "FUN" you are wanting, worst skier? If so, avoid ice. I am with YOU Ski! As an Aussie I am all too familiar with ice. Lovely stuff it is - slippery concrete. I do contend though that riding ice has made me a better boarder. Just not the thing you want to be doing if you are resembling a 'new born giraffe'....give the guy a couple of happy days on the soft snow before taking him to the ice fields Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Ice also isn't as big a deal for skiers to manage. Link to post Share on other sites
rider69 18 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Sam Bode Miller from New Hampshire home to wicked amounts of ice. Jeremy Jones New England home to wicked amounts of ice. I wouldnt go out looking for ice but dont avoid it and learn to ride it. If you can make turns on ice you can ride anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 ....but if you want FUN, avoid ice. Link to post Share on other sites
Nisoko 6 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 You won't really need to worry about ice in niseko anyway, worst-skier. It isn't Hakuba or another icy-prone resort in Honshu. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Originally Posted By: SKI ....but if you want FUN, avoid ice. agree. Having learned on the ice encrusted rocky slopes of Scotland, I can definitely say that riding nice soft snow is infinitely better and I avoid ice at all costs!! Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Pow 52 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Freshly groomed freshly fallen powder snow. Pretty much what Niseko offers on a daily basis. Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaidough 4 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Originally Posted By: rider69 If you can make turns on ice you can ride anywhere. Perhaps you should go down to Hakuba to get good on the ice, dude. Then you 'can ride anywhere' Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I don't reckon you are the worst skier in niseko. Last season I saw a couple learning by themselves. They were walking in their skis back and forth. They also had woollen gloves which I helped pick up for them one time. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Originally Posted By: Hokkaidough Originally Posted By: rider69 If you can make turns on ice you can ride anywhere. Perhaps you should go down to Hakuba to get good on the ice, dude. Then you 'can ride anywhere' HEY! That's our Down Under Advantage!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmer 2 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Ice is good for teaching you how to ski well, once you can already ski a bit. For actual beginners, it's scary, painful, and fast. It's hard to argue against freshly groomed powder really, just perfect. Slush works fine too though. Link to post Share on other sites
rider69 18 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Jimmer made my point better than I did. but LOL. I didn't say start on ice. I said don't shy away from it and learn how to ski it. No ski instructor on the world gets past a (about level 2 PISA) without some coaching tickets. That means high level ski instructors have learned how to turn on hard packed or ice. Link to post Share on other sites
worst skier in niseko 0 Posted November 18, 2010 Author Share Posted November 18, 2010 Haha, I am a beginner, I'm not shooting for the olympics!! I think I will very much stay away from ice! Thanks, non icy friends. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 I think if you're a beginner rather than worry about snow conditions, just get out there and do it. I learned on shite snow out in Hiroshima - so if I learned there and many other people learn on better hills and conditions, they're prolly better off. I think the most important thing, if you really are a beginner, is to get out there as many days as possible and get the hang of it, and spend time learning how to ski, as opposed to worrying about snow conditions. Link to post Share on other sites
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