HelperElfMissy 42 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I noticed that about the medals tally too. I was sure they used to be weighted like you suggest - at least at summer games. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I wish this figure skating thing would finish already. They are blabbering on about how 2nd is best again here. And, how the Korean girl got 'too many points' in the first go. Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Here's another good one. Mao will win because she is going to be wearing a hot red outfit, compared to Kim's icy blue one. So now you know. Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Unfortunately, that IS a real possibility. That she would get better marks because of the outfit. Bugger all to do with skill, more to do with the perception of the judges. In case no-one noticed, I am not a fan of "pretty sports", where the result is a calculation based on any number of judges and their perception of the artistic/technical merit of the performer. (and, I note that these people are referred to as performers rather than as sports-people, is that significant, I wonder?) Get these pretty "sports" out of the olympics, I say! Get back to sports where the result is beyond doubt! If it can be measured (ie faster, first, higher, longer, more goals, whatever, then it's in! Else it goes into the "pretty sport world games". Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 I suspect it will go the other way JA. More! Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Yeah, me too! Pretty stuff (usually inddors) is easier for the TV coverage. Still a pity, it is sooo easy to corrupt the judging process. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Originally Posted By: JA Unfortunately, that IS a real possibility. That she would get better marks because of the outfit. Bugger all to do with skill, more to do with the perception of the judges. In case no-one noticed, I am not a fan of "pretty sports", where the result is a calculation based on any number of judges and their perception of the artistic/technical merit of the performer. (and, I note that these people are referred to as performers rather than as sports-people, is that significant, I wonder?) Get these pretty "sports" out of the olympics, I say! Get back to sports where the result is beyond doubt! If it can be measured (ie faster, first, higher, longer, more goals, whatever, then it's in! Else it goes into the "pretty sport world games". I tend to agree JA but how far are we going to go. Right now there are those that say the "judged" sports ought to go and also the group of critics with the "is it even a sport" saying curling shouldn't be in the games. And then there are others who don't want womens softball or womens hockey because there are really only a few competitive countries. I like the variety even if some of the events don't really appeal to me. Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Simple answer, Chris. IF it can be measured objectively (ie higher, more points, closer to the target, faster, shorter time, etc) AND there are a minimum of 5000 competitors in the world, it's IN! Else it heads off to the pretty world games! Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Originally Posted By: JA Simple answer, Chris. IF it can be measured objectively (ie higher, more points, closer to the target, faster, shorter time, etc) AND there are a minimum of 5000 competitors in the world, it's IN! Else it heads off to the pretty world games! That would certainly thin out the events. Link to post Share on other sites
kkk 7 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Yuna 228.56 Mao 205.5 Only 23 points it Link to post Share on other sites
mina2 6 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Blows the competition out of the water. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 And boy did she know it!! Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 She would have had to make a mess of it to not win, she just looks so silky smooth effortless out there. Ando in 5th. Oh dear. Is it true she's 'having a relationship' with her coach? Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 FIGURE SKATERS: ã‚„ã£ã±ã‚Š it's best to be in 1st place, not 2nd. Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Hey JA, maybe you've been over this before but I'm too lazy to read the whole thread How do you feel about sports like ski jumping where there is a combination of distance and style considered? Does distance trump all other considerations? Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted February 26, 2010 Share Posted February 26, 2010 Some fantastically bullshit comments coming in "If Kim wasn't there, Mao would get gold!!!" "This is Mao's preparation for Gold in 4 years time - when she will definitely win." Link to post Share on other sites
gerard 6 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Kim was really sending it out there. Mao's performance was subpar. Aside from the fact that she made one or two minor mistakes on the jumps, she was uninspiring on the stuff in between too imo. The Canadian who got bronze is a huge story too since her Mom died suddenly a couple of days ago. Some are saying the judges may have been swayed abit by the circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites
mina2 6 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 She's got some sexy moves. Do they get points for sexy moves? Mao doesn't look as natural. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Originally Posted By: ger Kim was really sending it out there. Mao's performance was subpar. Aside from the fact that she made one or two minor mistakes on the jumps, she was uninspiring on the stuff in between too imo. The Canadian who got bronze is a huge story too since her Mom died suddenly a couple of days ago. Some are saying the judges may have been swayed abit by the circumstances. Bronze for mother. Silver for father? Link to post Share on other sites
oblivion 5 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Tell you what that durge of music Mao did the free too is just awful. It goes on and on and on and never seems to end. Annoying. Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Originally Posted By: Black Mountain Hey JA, maybe you've been over this before but I'm too lazy to read the whole thread How do you feel about sports like ski jumping where there is a combination of distance and style considered? Does distance trump all other considerations? In my olympics, yep, exactly! Style is simply a way to allow the judges to think they are important (in some cases too important!) and the distance should be THE determining factor. What are the "style" points for, anyway? ... to stop the guys acting stupid? (they'd waste energy and aerodynamics if they did) ... to make sure they did a telemark landing? (for what purpose?) distance is everything! Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 What is the meaning of 入賞 ?? Are you still that if you come 8th? Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 I really like the womens aerials, mens aerials, snowboard half pipe ... they are style judged ... but I would be sad if they were removed. Different strokes for different folks. Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Originally Posted By: brit-gob What is the meaning of 入賞 ?? Are you still that if you come 8th? Not a clue, brit, don't read kanji myself. Not sure you meant that to refer to me, though. Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Not directed at you JA. I thought it was top 3 --- the guys who won the prizes ---- but apparently not. Maybe someone can explain Link to post Share on other sites
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