veronica 2 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 A Japanese friend recently told me they were planning on making an expressway extension up to Hakuba? Is that right? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 its a bad idea and will cost too much money. considering that it will only be used in the winter. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Yeah, Im sure Mr.W. can give more info on that. Hakuba would turn into a POS with that easy in and out access. Hope they dont! Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 It wont make more people go. It will turn our 7000 yen drive into 10000. Link to post Share on other sites
JapaneseSnowBunny 0 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 If they do it, make valley ugly also. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowConnection 0 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 No plan in JH Net official. I did not hear such a story. Local people might know any. http://www.jhnet.go.jp/info/open/contents/imgs/tyubu.gif Link to post Share on other sites
sakebomb 0 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 It could end up like the express way to Sapporo, spends most of the time closing and opening in winter- damn it gets slippery!! Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 The plans are there for an expressway to join Toyoshina with Itoigawa, but its still unclear whether it will be built. So long as Tanaka is head of Nagano it won't. The plans are for a bypass, not a toll road. The original route supposedly went through Hotaka, but some of the people there have kicked up a storm. If it does get the go-ahead, it will probably be re-routed east through Akashina. The proposed cost is something like 5,000 yen for every single person in Japan. The national government will stump up the vast majority of the money, not the Highway Authority or local governments. Obviously it will be a boon for all the locals working in construction. Needless to say, its totally unnecessary and would be a complete waste of money. Access to Hakuba has greatly improved in the last ten years, but the period has witnessed a large fall in tourism and a large increase in the number of trucks passing through. Access is not the problem. Tourism has fallen sharply even to areas close to Tokyo like Hakone and Izu. FWIW, large sections of the rail line through the valley are single track with one two-carriage train every 90 minutes and two expresses a day for most of the year. That's how much actual demand there is for transport. Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Didn't you ever see Field of Dreams. Build it, and they will come! Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 build and they have to pay is the better saying. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowConnection 0 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 When JH was extended from Suzaka(Nagano) to Myoko several years ago, I felt somewhat be comfortable for less signal stops. As far as skiing, it did not contribute to increasing my ski trips. When Myoko gets more attractiveness, I will go skiing more. If the JH tool cost is half, I may go skiing to Myoko double. Comfortable/faster driving is a nice-to-have (Japlish?). I have the same idea with Mr W. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted May 19, 2005 Share Posted May 19, 2005 Is there a "Most Stupid Idea" contest in Japan? I sometimes think there must be, with many many entrants, such as this. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Quote: When Myoko gets more attractiveness What things could they do? I've heard good things about Myoko. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowConnection 0 Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 I mean "When Myoko ITSELF gets more attractiveness". e.g. more snow pile, discount program, event, festival, etc. I did not go to Myoko ski resort this season, cos an event was withdrawn. Access(Highway) is not a major factor for letting skiers come. Originally, it is far and travel costly from Tokyo and Osaka. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 What event was that SC? I tend to avoid places with events - I don't like crowds, rather be somewhere quiet. Link to post Share on other sites
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