BagOfCrisps 24 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Is there any news on how Japan will be paying for the recovery needed in Tohoku? It is surely going to cost a ton, and it needs to come from somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Curt 1 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Looks like there is a lot of talk of increasing consumption tax. Currently 5% of course. I heard 8% until today when some are mentioning a possible rise to 20%. Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 20%??? I hadn't heard that. I believe that would be a sure fire way to cripple the economy. Link to post Share on other sites
joshnii 2 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I saw that on the news tonight. It was just an opinion I think, not some kind of thing going forward. Link to post Share on other sites
69 5 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 20% from 5%? That would surely not be a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 No it wouldn't as people would really cut back and not spend unless absolutely essential. It would kill the economy not help it. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Has to be the consumption tax, which is the best solution to the country's debt and ageing problems anyway. Even at 5%, it brings in as much revenue as the income tax does. Income tax revenue is falling now due to falling incomes and the number of people in work also falling with the greying of society. Here's a chart of Japanese government income. Green is income tax. Middle blue bar is consumption tax. The increasingly big blue bar at the top is not income as such. It's borrowing Link to post Share on other sites
mitchpee 10 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Honestly, the only way Japan is really going to decrease its debt is through specialized exporting. Japan has the capability to produce some of the better technology in the world. Albeit at a higher price than others, it is still advanced technology. Raising consumption tax may be a good way to reduce some of the incurred debt from the earthquake. However, too much of it could be a shock to aggregate demand and cripple the domestic service/product markets. Then you would have an even higher unemployment rate in a country really striving to find work. It's a tough bind but they need to decrease the yen. The reality is Japan is going to have some economic withdrawals...That is part of the woe of capitalism. Boom and bust. If they can find some sort of global niche like they did with cars it will significantly reduce the time of recession. Link to post Share on other sites
SantaCruz 0 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Good to see the Econ degree coming into play Mitch Link to post Share on other sites
mitchpee 10 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Originally Posted By: SantaCruz Good to see the Econ degree coming into play Mitch Haha if only it would make me money instead of pointless forum talk Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I'm certainly not against a raising of consumption tax. When I first came here it was 3% and a few years after raised to 5%. People made quite a stink about the 2% raise...now 15% or more figures are being thrown around... This generation is going to get screwed because of the previous generations lack of insight and greed...If I even meet one old person who complains about a jump in consumption tax I'll explode.. Link to post Share on other sites
iiyamadude 6 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Well it's perhaps a natural reaction for someone to be told that their current 5% tax might rise to 20%. Who likes that? They're not all business owners or economists. Link to post Share on other sites
BillTheBinMan 0 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Just seen this. The Japanese government has announced a 4 trillion yen ($48.9bn; £29.6bn) emergency budget for disaster relief, after March's earthquake and tsunami. The budget still needs approval from parliament later this month, and could be implemented in May. Authorities say no new bonds were issued to fund the spending, to prevent adding to Japan's huge public debt. The government estimates it will cost as much as 25tn yen to rebuild the country. The emergency budget is aimed at disaster relief, including providing temporary housing, restoration of infrastructure and disaster-related loans. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Originally Posted By: Chriselle This generation is going to get screwed because of the previous generations lack of insight and greed...If I even meet one old person who complains about a jump in consumption tax I'll explode.. With nearly 25% of the population over 65, any solution has include them paying too. They own most of the wealth, so they've got the ability to pay. Poor ones can be helped by safety nets, just as deserving young poor should be. Since most older folks vote and many young don't, don't hold your breath for anything that adversely affects the old. Not from politicians who are themselves mostly old. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I read something that said they'll use "pension funds" already set aside......that sounds like a grand idea Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Ok, kill the older politicians who leech off the economy, increase consumption tax to 10%, cut budges for the quangoes, lower tariffs to improve competition for products and improve the food quantity, starting producing more home made products rather than getting other countries to make them, increase primary industries, such as farming and construction to get people into work which in turn will get them spending. Link to post Share on other sites
fukdane 2 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 Rob what is "Folder politician"? Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted April 24, 2011 Share Posted April 24, 2011 sorry *older. Link to post Share on other sites
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