seemore 66 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I am sure it is on the SJ site somewhere but I can't find it. How cold does it get Late Dec early Jan in Niseko? Have to work out what clothes to bring Seemore Link to post Share on other sites
deanrobi 2 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I can remember it getting to -17 one day when we were there this year, even took a photo for the guys back home sitting in 45 degree heat. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Layers seemore, layers! It is VERY cold. I used the little heater packs in my boots every day on the mountain, never have had to in Aus. I always rode with at least a thermal, midlayer and good jacket - but my older boys have been known to regularly head out with just a tee shirt under their jackets (but they are NUTS!). I also recall them walking to return the electronic tix for the refund in shorts, tee and sneakers on our last day in January 2 years ago - they got some very strange looks. As long as you have the ability to layer you will be set for all conditions - if you are cold - add an extra layer - if hot, whip one off. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 ohh... one thing I WASN'T prepared for was the indoor heat. I will be remembering to pack a few tee shirts myself this time, because I didn't have anything cool to wear inside when I was feeling overheated. I had to buy a couple of Hirafu tourist tee's to get me through. Link to post Share on other sites
gareth_oau 2 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: Mamabear - if hot, whip one off. umm, I think I'm misunderstanding you here. surely whipping one off is just going to make seemore hotter? Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 oh please! I meant take a layer of clothing off Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Yes it can be cold. Not unusual for the temps on the upper mountain to hover between -20 and -13 at that time of year. Layering as MB has pointed out is the best way to go and also include something to cover your face. If it's below -15 and the wind gets up at all and with faceshots on every turn frostbite can be a real concern. I've had frostbite on my cheeks a couple of times during my time here. Link to post Share on other sites
deanrobi 2 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 yes the ninja mask from the convenience store for 1200Y was my best investment I ever made, still use today. I don't really change the amount of layers from what I wear in Aust/NZ, Thermals, midlayer and a good jacket, and I seem to be ok. Can highly recommend a pair of inners in your gloves as I found that if you take your gloves off to fix a binding or take a photo they can very quickly get cold and uncomfortable and they take forever to warm back up unlike in Aust/NZ. Other than that buy a pack of the heater pads that MB was taking about from the convenience store, dirt cheap, something like 20c each compared to the $5.00 bucks that they want to charge Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Good point GN! My youngest really struggled with that 2 yrs ago - and it is really hard for Mum to do anything about it when he is off all day in Snowboard School! I am going to try some thermoprotective barrier cream as well as face protection this year. Face protection: I find the full fleecy neck warmers a bit much on my face - I get quite claustrophobic; although they are certainly warm. I also found the boy was less likely to pull up over his frostbitten cheeks than the thinner Buff. I use at least two buffs when I go out riding - one covers my head/hair(I look Muslim!) - it keeps my helmet from knotting my hair(fine straight blonde hair tends to knot ridiculously easily), and adds an extra warmth layer. It also allows me to pull the buff over my forehead eliminating the brain freeze spot between helmet and goggles. The second buff goes around my neck and is pulled up to be a face mask. I can breathe easily through it, but it does sometimes get wet and cold after a while (carry a spare in the pocket for a quick change). I also sometimes end up fogging up the goggles. But I end up only having my eyes exposed (which are of course covered by the goggles). Works for us. The boys have tried the bandana type, and the neoprene "Hannibal Lecter" face mask, and Papa swears by the traditional Polar Fleece neck warmer - but none of us have regretted purchasing Buffs and having them in the arsenal against the cold. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: ratherb@thesnow Can highly recommend a pair of inners in your gloves as I found that if you take your gloves off to fix a binding or take a photo they can very quickly get cold and uncomfortable and they take forever to warm back up unlike in Aust/NZ. Thanks for the reminder - I think we are down a few pairs of inners - time to invest in some more. I would like to try the silk liners, but have never seen them anywhere. Anyone use them? Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 It gets cold when the wind is up. In the evening, when there's no wind, I usually walk around bar hopping in just a rugby shirt and golf trousers with a pair of trainers. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 what exactly is a buff?? Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Click on the link Tubby - I put it there coz I KNEW there would be questions I have mainly original buffs, but a couple of Polar Buffs as well. They are microfibre tubes/neckwarmers that are versatile head & neck wear. Link to post Share on other sites
seemore 66 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks TB I thought it had something to do with nudity But judging by this thread it could be a boob tube thingy around your beck maybe!!! Seemore Link to post Share on other sites
foreversnow 5 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Seemore head straight to Kutchan and buy the bulk pack of Hand and Feet warmers. I have them stuffed in my gloves, bra, panties, boots, beanie. YEP it gets cold!!! Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: snowhuntress ...buy the bulk pack of Hand and Feet warmers. I have them stuffed in my gloves, bra, panties, boots, beanie. YEP it gets cold!!! Link to post Share on other sites
iiyamadude 6 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 The good thing about cold is that you can put stuff on. When it's horribly hot, you run out of options! Link to post Share on other sites
seemore 66 Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share Posted September 28, 2009 SH That reply was strangley erotic. But thank you for the advice Seemore Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 It will be colder than a witch's tit! Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 that would be outstanding Link to post Share on other sites
seemore 66 Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Although un-familiar with the cold breasts of an enchantress TB. I deduce that it will be very cold and we need to rug up. Cheers Everyone Hope Mrs Seemore will cope Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Feed Mrs Seemore warm sake, hot chocolate with rum, or gluwheins and she will feel NO PAIN Link to post Share on other sites
foreversnow 5 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Ahhhh MB that is where I have been going wrong I have only been ordering Hot Chocolate. I will from now on definately be having the Hot ChocoRum!!! Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 We had Hot Choc with Rum for the first time in Switzerland in Janaury this year. After a day on the mountain at Rothorn Paradise we would head back toward the village. After a particularly sweet ride from Blauherd we would all pull in to a quaint little coffee shop at Tuftern where our request for 6 hot chocolates would be met with the smiling response from the lovely Swiss fellow there "...with rhoooooom?" Papa's response of "why not?!" began a tradition of stopping for hot chocolate with rum to fortify us for the balance of the run home. Tufturn to Patrullarve wasn't too bad, bit narrow in places, but an enjoyable run, however from Patrullarve to the Village was a nightmare - a busy highway the width of my snowboard. People stopped on it, chopped up by the end of the day, big rock walls on one side, and a steep treed drop on the other. I didnt mind it during the day when it was not busy - but add 1000 or so people all coming off the mountain at the same time - and I needed that rum! Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Last season here in Niigata it never felt mad cold. Same story as me not having to really shoven snow around as I usually do. Hopefully, there will be plenty of cold and plenty of snow. Link to post Share on other sites
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