Go Native 70 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Originally Posted By: MikePow Niseko Resort Area, Hokkaido Thursday 25 September 2008 It's pissing down and cold in the village today. Can't see Yotei but I'm guessing that there's snow falling up there. 1 deg drop in temp for each 100m gain in elevation (approx) would mean a +10 deg C temp in the village at 300m would equate to a -5 deg C temp at 1800m. Mike I'm not actually that confident that it will be snowing up top today. The current temp at Nakayama toge is 9 deg and it's around 900m. The 1 deg per 100m is the dry adiabatic lapse rate (0% humidity). There's a little low pressure system just to the west of us and the winds are coming out of the SW currently. The air is very humid so the lapse rate is probably closer to 0.5 deg per 100m. So I reckon it's around 2-3 deg at the summit of Youtei. The low pressure system will start moving to the east of us tomorrow and we should see the winds switch around to more northerly and the snow return over the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I may be wrong, Tubby Beaver, I do not study these things and don't claim to know everything and be right all the time (enough disclaimers?!).... but, the first snow I usually notice is on top of Makihata / Hakkai-san in my region. And I would think Myoko. In terms of resorts, it'll be Kagura I suppose. Check ザ・Report http://www.snowjapan.com/e/daily/yuzawa-now-archive.php?month=11&year=2007 http://www.snowjapan.com/e/daily/naeba-now-archive.php?month=11&year=2007 Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Pow 52 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Originally Posted By: Go Native Originally Posted By: MikePow Niseko Resort Area, Hokkaido Thursday 25 September 2008 It's pissing down and cold in the village today. Can't see Yotei but I'm guessing that there's snow falling up there. 1 deg drop in temp for each 100m gain in elevation (approx) would mean a +10 deg C temp in the village at 300m would equate to a -5 deg C temp at 1800m. Mike I'm not actually that confident that it will be snowing up top today. The current temp at Nakayama toge is 9 deg and it's around 900m. The 1 deg per 100m is the dry adiabatic lapse rate (0% humidity). There's a little low pressure system just to the west of us and the winds are coming out of the SW currently. The air is very humid so the lapse rate is probably closer to 0.5 deg per 100m. So I reckon it's around 2-3 deg at the summit of Youtei. The low pressure system will start moving to the east of us tomorrow and we should see the winds switch around to more northerly and the snow return over the weekend. Bloody spoilsport Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 0 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Looks like its going to snow on the tops above Hakuba tonight too! http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Happo-One/6day/top Freezing levels going down to 2300m so we should see some white on the top 600m of the Northern Alps tomorrow. If we can see em tomorrow that is... Link to post Share on other sites
Nisoko 6 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I often find the early snow to be fruststating. So near and yet so far kind of thing. So I try to ignore it and only get excited when we are nearer the season. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 the guys at Ebis films are also having a relase party for Icon 6 in Tokyo, Sapporo, Furano, and Morioka. The Tokyo showing is October 5th so Tokyo peeps should check it out. Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I ll be working that weekend mate. Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Starting snowing on Youtei again this afternoon. Should get some half decent falls tonight and tomorrow. Snowing down to near 1100m tonight. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted September 27, 2008 Author Share Posted September 27, 2008 can you get pics GN? Link to post Share on other sites
Greenroome 0 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Thanks heaps for the info, GN (and Mike Pow). Much appreciated. Keen for more. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Admin SnowJapan 178 Posted September 27, 2008 SnowJapan Admin Share Posted September 27, 2008 It has got really chilly in the evenings here (in Gunma). Around 12 degrees a few hours ago when I was out just before but it was raining heavily, felt almost wintery-ish. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted September 27, 2008 Author Share Posted September 27, 2008 Originally Posted By: SJForums It has got really chilly in the evenings here (in Gunma). Around 12 degrees a few hours ago when I was out just before but it was raining heavily, felt almost wintery-ish. Its funny how the drop in temperature here makes you think its really cold, after all 12 degrees would be normal for October in Scotland, I don't think of that as a cold temperature, but having being here I bet if I felt 12 degrees I'd swear that snow was just minutes away!!! Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Admin SnowJapan 178 Posted September 27, 2008 SnowJapan Admin Share Posted September 27, 2008 Actually I was just thinking the same! It did feel cold though. I was in a t-shirt, everyone else had a coat or jumper on. Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Snow on happo this morning!! Will try to get some pics Link to post Share on other sites
foreversnow 5 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Thanks for the update GN. I think I can actually see snow on Mt Yotei!!!! YAHOO!! NOW I'M REALLY EXCITED Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted September 27, 2008 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2008 Totally not wanting to dampen any excitement at all, can we please remember our links policy on here - links to your company/hotels website/blog suddenly aren't ok with the first snow. The Yotei webcam is presented on our site, so here it is: http://www.snowjapan.com/e/daily/webcam/hokkaido/yotei.html Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted September 27, 2008 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2008 But for some reason it is not showing there, so in this case here it is http://www.niseko-ta.jp/index.php?id=94 We'll try and sort it out. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Pow 52 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Niseko Resort Area, Hokkaido Saturday 27 September 2008 Deluge overnight, and continuing as I write. Healthy covering of snow overnight on the peak of Yotei. Main gully white. Socked in. Will try to get pics if it clears. Link to post Share on other sites
happyhappy 0 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Just saw GoNatives photos on the photo section Link to post Share on other sites
foreversnow 5 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Sorry SJ ALWAYS check your site first and had for about 3 days but the image wasn't coming up. Gave myself an uppercut won't happen again Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted September 27, 2008 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2008 No problems, thanks. If you notice something not working or incorrect on our site, please do contact us (email or PM) and we'll always try to see to it as quickly as we can. Link to post Share on other sites
foreversnow 5 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Thanks for the heads up on the GN photo's. I found I saw and now I am happy - The mythical snow on Yotei has been seen Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Originally Posted By: SJ#4 But for some reason it is not showing there, so in this case here it is http://www.niseko-ta.jp/index.php?id=94 We'll try and sort it out. Seeing the pic reminded me of a story: I took the bus from Kutchan back once and ended up at Niseko station and remembered thinking to myself HTF am I gonna get back to my hotel from here?? I was walking around with shopping bags looking like a lost puppy when a woman asked me if I needed help. I said that I needed to know how to get back to Hirafu. She said shed take me back since she was heading to Higashiyama anyways. As we were talking I found out shes the 支é…人ｓ (GM) wife for the Prince Hotel (well since its sold make that past tense). Very kind of her Good times up there, cant wait to go back. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted September 27, 2008 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2008 Here is the pic of Yotei on the Niseko Now page - thanks to Go Native Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted September 27, 2008 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted September 27, 2008 And here is Hakuba, more on the Hakuba Now page: http://www.snowjapan.com/e/daily/hakuba-now.php Link to post Share on other sites
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