RobinsonAus 0 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Does anyone know the snowdepth at the base of Niseko? I assume the snow depth that is shown on the now reports is at the summit? Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 it says at foot 80 at top 120 GN or MikePow can get their tape measures out when they're free. Link to post Share on other sites
RobinsonAus 0 Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 So where does the reading of 187cm's that is on the now report come from? Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 dunno, 80 and 120 comes from Niseko United. The only premier league team up there. Link to post Share on other sites
osiris 0 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I think you'll find the 187 on the Niseko Now report come from total snowfall rather than accumulated depth......?!? Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Pow 52 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Haven't done base measurements for a while. Will do tomorrow. As a guess, from 10cm to 80 cm depending where you measure. And by my reckoning we've had 265cm at Village level (~300m) so far. Link to post Share on other sites
neversummer 0 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I spent a couple of hours out there today and there would be 70-80cm at about 500m altitude (i could see a couple of holes and cracks in the base that had been dug out). At the top of the hooded triple there is easily over a metre but there is still a lot of sasa grass poking through. There was a lot more snow than I expected up there and without the right setup to ride that amount of snow I went for burger and chilled out for the afternoon Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 There has always been an issue with the official reported snowdepths at Niseko being a lot less than what we observe on the ground ourselves. The Niseko Now page is probably a good incator of the off-piste depth and the official report for on-piste. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Pow 52 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Originally Posted By: neversummer There was a lot more snow than I expected up there and without the right setup to ride that amount of snow I went for burger and chilled out for the afternoon Schoolboy error neversummer The evidence m'lord (scroll to end) http://www.snowjapanforums.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/238357/fpart/5 Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Admin SnowJapan 178 Posted December 5, 2007 SnowJapan Admin Share Posted December 5, 2007 Only just noticed this. (Someone should have given us a shout). I don't know the answer myself right now -- let me look into this.... Link to post Share on other sites
projectsplat 0 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 out of interest - on the Now! report - does: Temperature Bottom & Temperature Top refer to the temp at the bottom and top of the mountain? or does it refer to the minimum and maximum temperature for the day? Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 temps are at the bottom of the resort (around 250m) and the top of the Ace #2 lift (around 800m). Link to post Share on other sites
neversummer 0 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I know Mike..also won't leave my screwdriver set in the car either. Unlike you, I have to work from early morning but don't start 'till 10 on the weekend so with the weather still hanging around hopefully I'll get out for a full day soon... Just coming in heavy again Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Admin SnowJapan 178 Posted December 7, 2007 SnowJapan Admin Share Posted December 7, 2007 We have updated the Niseko Now page, and are making a few changed to avoid further confusion. Sorry for the confusion the last few days. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
projectsplat 0 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Originally Posted By: Go Native temps are at the bottom of the resort (around 250m) and the top of the Ace #2 lift (around 800m). cool. cheers for that. thanks for the clarification. Originally Posted By: SJForums We have updated the Niseko Now page, and are making a few changed to avoid further confusion. Sorry for the confusion the last few days. Thanks ok, so this new depth of 130cm, where is this measurement taken? is this in the village, or up on the mountain? on-piste? off-piste? unfortunately, this clarification has left me a little more confused. (and what happened to the 11 metre snow depth?? I liked that one) Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Admin SnowJapan 178 Posted December 7, 2007 SnowJapan Admin Share Posted December 7, 2007 We plan to put the official Hirafu numbers on there - which are presumably on-piste. The number that is followed by (at top) is the snow depth at top. The number that is followed by (at base) is the snow depth at base. Link to post Share on other sites
projectsplat 0 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Cool SJ. Thanks for that. Greatly appreciated. I know it seems silly, but as we get closer to getting on the plane to come on over, my mood and the general well being of my day can be largely effected by the snow depth reporting.... To that effect, it has taken me two coffees and a snowboard film to get my day back on track after the reports were downgraded from 218cm to 130cm overnight. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Admin SnowJapan 178 Posted December 7, 2007 SnowJapan Admin Share Posted December 7, 2007 Like we said in the report, apologies for the confusion on this. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Its still December 7th PS...no need to worry Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Admin SnowJapan 178 Posted December 7, 2007 SnowJapan Admin Share Posted December 7, 2007 Well, yes. We just got a mail in which someone branded the whole of SnowJapan as "not credible" and "a bit of a joke" because of this issue. Nice way to start the day.... Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Just ignore them SJ. (Maybe block their IP address so they can't use your joke of a site). Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Originally Posted By: SJForums Well, yes. We just got a mail in which someone branded the whole of SnowJapan as "not credible" and "a bit of a joke" because of this issue. Nice way to start the day.... same wan*ers who are prolly pissed off regarding being banned a few weeks ago Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 OK like the people said, you must ignore and totally dismiss this kind of comment. Do not respond. It's either someone angry for some reason as CB said, or just someone with limited brain capacity. If someone says what you noted after one issue like this - for which you have adjusted, mentioned and apologised for any confusion - then they are just simply fools. Keep up the fantastic work. A ton of people totally appreciate what you do. Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 FWIW, I did a major unit at uni on hydrology. Fully a third of the course was devoted to Sampling. That is, how to take representative measurements. Snow is notoriously difficult to measure. The best you can do for a given station is to use a standard sampling technique. Treating snow depths as anything other than indicative is delusional. Link to post Share on other sites
projectsplat 0 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Originally Posted By: SJForums Like we said in the report, apologies for the confusion on this. is cool SJ. again thanks for your efforts here. they are greatly appreciated. Originally Posted By: SJForums Well, yes. We just got a mail in which someone branded the whole of SnowJapan as "not credible" and "a bit of a joke" because of this issue. Nice way to start the day.... that is not cool. i think that sometimes people forget that the people running the site are actually human. Link to post Share on other sites
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