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Echineko... I myself do not really understand "halloween". All I know is that the kids get dressed, go around the neighbourhood and try and scam lollies (or "candy" as those seppos seam to call it) and make silly looking faces with pumpkins! We dont really celebrate that over here in Oz so maybe a real seppo could kindly explain to you what it REALLY is?!?! confused.gif

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Here's a breif overview on Halloween......

 

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Next to Christmas, Halloween is the most commercialized celebration in the United States and Canada. This ancient festival originated far from North America however, and centuries before the first European set foot on the continent.

The ancient Druids who inhabited what we now call Great Britain placed great importance on the passing of one season to the next, holding "Fire Festivals" which were celebrated for three days (two days on either side of the day itself).

 

One of these festivals was called Samhain (pronounced Sha-Von) and it took place on October 31 through to November 1. During this period, it was believed that the boundaries between our world and the world of the dead were weakened, allowing spirits of the recently dead to cross over and possess the living.

 

In order to make themselves and their homes less inviting to these wayward spirits, the ancient Celts would douse all their fires. There was also a secondary purpose to this, after extinguishing all their fires, they would re-light them from a common source, the Druidic fire that was kept burning at Usinach, in the Middle of Ireland.

 

Samhain was considered to be a gateway not only from the land of the dead to the land of the living, but also between Summer and Fall/Winter. For the Druids, this was the last gasp of summer (it was also the Celtic New Year), so therefore they made sure it went out with a bang before they had to button down for the winter ahead.

 

They would dress up in bizarre costumes and parade through their villages causing destruction in order to scare off any recently departed souls who might be prowling for bodies to inhabit, in addition to burning animals and other offerings to the Druidic deities. It is also a popular belief that they would burn people who they believed to be possessed, but this has largely been debunked as myth.

 

This yearly festival was adopted by the Roman invaders, who helped to propagate it throughout the rest of the world (and at that time, the Roman Empire was the world). The word "Halloween" itself actually comes from a contraction of All Hallows Eve, or All Saint's Day (November 1), which is a Catholic day of observance in honour of saints.

 

This tradition was later brought to the North American continent by Irish immigrants who were escaping the Potato Famine in their homeland. In addition to the festival itself, the immigrants brought several customs with them, including one of the symbols most commonly associated with Halloween -- the Jack 'O Lantern.

 

According to Irish folklore, there once lived a man named Jack who was known for being a drunk and a prankster. One night Jack tricked the devil into climbing a tree, and quickly carved an image of a cross on the trunk, trapping the devil. Jack then made him promise that, in exchange for letting him out of the tree, the Devil would never tempt him to sin again. He reluctantly agreed, but was able to exact his revenge upon Jack's death. Because of his mischevious ways in life, Jack was barred from entering heaven and because of his earlier trick, he was also barred from hell. So he was doomed to wander the earth until the end of time, with only a single ember (carried in a hollowed out turnip) to warm him and light his way.

 

In Ireland, they originally also used turnips for their "Jack Lanterns", but upon arriving in the new world, they discovered that pumpkins were abundant and easier to carve out.

 

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Hope that helps..

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In the UK Halloween isn't really much. Bonfire Night - Firework Night, Guy Falkes (who?) - on the 5th Nov is much bigger, with lots of fireworks and treacle toffee. I'd really like to eat some good tracle toffee now. Delicious.

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well...sorry you think it is "silly"...

nice to see such tolerance on this board!

 

halloween is a great holiday in the states...

a wonderful time to be a kid...dressing up in costumes walking the neighborhood in the beautiful fall weather and scoring lots of "candy", as we "seppos" like to say (I don't know whether to be offended by that word or not...)

And it also is great fun for all ages...some of the best yearly throw downs are halloween parties! I miss it!

 

danz

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danz, you ought to be offended. The pedigree of the word is an Australian version of Cockney rhyming slang "septic tank - yank", shortened to "seppo".

 

There's good and thoroughly weird book about Halloween by Ray Bradbury - called the Halloween Tree. Good to read if you want to feel the American fascination with the festival.

 

http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN...6479978-8186610

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Yuki's Passion... I am not fatty. But I do know the guy. Lots of people over here, especially surfers and snowboarders, refer to Americans as "seppos". Its not really meant to be offensive so I am sorry if I offended anyone. Is "yank" or some other word better? Is the word "pom" offensive to Brits? Feel free to through any slang words for Australians this way!

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Halloween is a little strange to non americans. But that isnt any big deal. All countries are different.

 

What is a big deal is Valantines day! As commercialised events go, that one is really trucked up.

 

Further thoughts on H'ween: I dont really dig the costume thing, but that is just me. I do however dig the discomfort it causes some religous followings. This crazy Pagan annual event makes them squirm!

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Yeah yeah, who cares where we came from. Fact is Australia is one of the most desirable bits of real estate in the world.

 

How silly were the Brits 200 years ago? Giving this prime real estate to their criminals. Big mistake.

 

All we gotta do now is ditch their flag from the corner of our flag. Then, fellow prison inmates, we will be a free land!

 

I am a prisoner and I am 'revolting'

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