muikabochi 208 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 A discussion in another thread that was perhaps potentially derailing it. What do you classify as a 'resort'? Any skijo? Not just the mega-resorts like Mt Granview, but smaller tiny places like Niseko? Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Pow 52 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 A mountain town with lifts that offers accommodation, restaurants, retail & recreation for visiting holidaymakers for longer than 2 nights. Grand Hirafu is a ski resort. Sapporo Kokusai is a ski hill. IMHO Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Don't know about resort, it's going to mean different things to different people. In the other thread, Katsura was accused of not being a resort. We'll, I would say it is. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 jaguar even Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Kagura Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Hmm.....Kagura I wouldn't consider a resort, a ski hill for sure. It has no urban infrastructure but as part of Mt Naeba, I would, due to Naeba having a village. When considering a winter resort, I agree with Mike that it should have accommodation, retail and other entertainment options to consider itself a "resort" Link to post Share on other sites
surfarthur 22 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 ski resortWeb definitions a resort with lodging and facilities for skiing Resort noun a place that is frequented for holidays or recreation or for a particular purpose. synonyms: holiday destination, holiday centre, tourist centre, centre, spot, retreat,haunt; By these definitions, I think a ski resort requires: accomodation,snow, and people frequenting the location for the purpose of snow sports (lifts optional, and clothing - only if you are soft ) Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Resort obviously will have different meanings to different people. For me, a ski ``resort'' offers lodging, lifts, related shopping and a choice of restaurants & bars/clubs along with some other recreation for non-skiers. YMMV. But I don't need a resort, just a good hill w/lifts, a warm bed and some place to get a decent meal & a drink or two. I preferred Niseko before it attained ``resort'' status. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I preferred Niseko before it attained ``resort'' status. Sheesh. Less of the extreme vitriol towards Niseko please! Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Don't know about resort, it's going to mean different things to different people.In the other thread, Katsura was accused of not being a resort. We'll, I would say it is. Katsura. I like it! Link to post Share on other sites
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Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Resort obviously will have different meanings to different people. For me, a ski ``resort'' offers lodging, lifts, related shopping and a choice of restaurants & bars/clubs along with some other recreation for non-skiers. YMMV. But I don't need a resort, just a good hill w/lifts, a warm bed and some place to get a decent meal & a drink or two. I preferred Niseko before it attained ``resort'' status. To be fair I prefer that too....yeah sure a bar or two to enjoy is great BUT I go on holidays to snowboard, I can drink at home, I hate issuing out the next day cos I'm hungover Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Too me a ski resort is somewhere that offers skiing obviously accomodation food and general amenities required for a stop over or stay. The size of the ski area makes no difference to the definition resort imho Link to post Share on other sites
ippy 66 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Kagura is a resort, Its pure middle class skiier fascism to declare it otherwise. Sorry its missing a creche, but its got a restaurant, lifts, a combini, and a ride demo cabin so screw you hippies! Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 No way, there are no facilities there that say resort.......it's a snow sports Mecca, but not a resort Link to post Share on other sites
ippy 66 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 i *am* prepared to accept "Mecca". Link to post Share on other sites
KlingKlang 1 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 For me it's a skijo. I'm very simple. Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I don't know... Based on what people are describing a place like Seki Onsen, which is TINY, would be considered a resort. There has to be more to it than just accommodation and 'facilities'. Btw, there is ski-in ski-out accommodation at Kagura! Link to post Share on other sites
KlingKlang 1 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I just think it's the best 'translation' of skijo rather than ski hill. But I'm not losing sleep over it at all. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted November 24, 2013 Author Share Posted November 24, 2013 Kagura is a resort, Its pure middle class skiier fascism to declare it otherwise. Sorry its missing a creche, but its got a restaurant, lifts, a combini, and a ride demo cabin so screw you hippies! Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Prince apparently considers Kagura a resort: Personally, I like the term "ski area" in general, though boarders may feel differently. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 They are having a laugh.....for such a popular place, the base "station" is woefully inadequate. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Good point. Time for an off season re-do of Mitsumata (and Tashiro) base, surely. Though I'm thinking... they have sod all cash. What with the state of the Neaba Prince stuck in th 80's and all minimum service at Naeba. Link to post Share on other sites
METAL 0 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Naeba Prince Hotel. I was thinking it might be really posh. Oh how I was wrong. Like gg said, it's like it was caught up in some time warp. And it's just so massive and sprawling. They don't charge low prices either. Highly unrecommended. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I've been in the a Prince Hotel in Sapporo and at Oiso in Kanagawa and I found them to be the same......nothing flashy at all, dated decor, which would be ok if they weren't charging like it was a top hotel Link to post Share on other sites
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