Gigabit ethernet switch

[DumbStick 13]

OK I think there was a thread like this before but can't find it (don't know what to look for!)

 

Anyway. I remember talk of having LAN connections in places around the house.

 

My understanding is that if I want to have more than a few that are on my router thing (Time Capsule), then I can buy a gigabit ethernet switch thing which gives me more ports. I think ask the builders to put in LAN sockets where I want them and have cables going from the machine to the sockets.... so I can get fast internet from any of these locations around the house.

 

Is my thinking here correct? Sorry I'm rubbish at the terminology!

 

Ta!

 

 

[klingon 10]

I think that should do the trick, dumbstick.

Connect that to one of the LAN ports on the Time Capsule and you should then get the extra ports.

I think.

[JA2340 16]

Better to use WiFi to the devices - with a WiFi router at the start. Then all your devices can access the net no matter where you are in the house, no need to be "tied" to a cable!

[Alexander L 80]

do people still lay LAN in new houses?

 

Wifi all the way, repeater if necessary for those thick thick walls.

[DumbStick 13]

OK let's say I'm daft and I want to do what I said in the first post.......!

[onehunga 26]

Dumbstick, you remember the other thread correctly. If you want wired access points around the house get the builders to install LAN connections thoughout the house (remember the kitchen, one day your fridge may want to talk to its friends), each connection should go back to a central point. ( in our apartment it's a space above the shower area ). In the central area place a router, the outlets connect to the router, the rounter connects to your modem.

 

 

Ensuring the modem and rounter are in a central location also gives a more consistant wireless signal thoughout your house. However depending on the design of your house, you may want to move the modem and router. ie if living and sleeping areas are all together at one side of the house, for better wireless signal may make sense to have the modem and router in that part of the house.

[snowdude 44]

I just use wifi for everything so just got one access point.

In my new house I will have a downstairs and upstairs access point but will just use wifi for everything, then no wired connections needed, it is so much more convenient.

 

DumbStick honestly just get an access point fitted upstairs and downstairs and then go wifi for everything.

The modern wifis work fine anywhere in the house. I can pick up my wifi outside my house even with no problem.

 

All new appliances, use wifi now and in future fridges, etc will also use wifi.

[pie-eater 207]

Why would a fridge want to use wifi?

Do fridges like porn too?

[Chriselle 158]

For beatin off in the sink...of course.... Whoops. Perhaps I've said too much..

[JA2340 16]

Why would a fridge want to use wifi?

Do fridges like porn too?

So they can order in more beer when you're about to run out!

 

Actually, so they can ensure that their contents are stored correctly, and to add requirements to the shopping list ... you know, the one that the central controller computer in the house sends on a weekly basis to the stupormarket, for them to deliver what is required

[BagOfCrisps 24]

Actually, so they can ensure that their contents are stored correctly, and to add requirements to the shopping list ... you know, the one that the central controller computer in the house sends on a weekly basis to the stupormarket, for them to deliver what is required

 

 

Er, I think I'll manage with a normal unsmart fridge.

[merryJim 1]

LAN connection is faster and more reliable than WiFi. That's probably why some people want it.

[surfarthur 22]

I would personally go for a wired connection - the cost of a few network ports around a new house is really not going to break the bank and allows for much higher speeds than wifi.

 

As far as connecting up your fridge, smart fridges will be able to send alarms if the temperature goes up (imagine your wife forgot to close the fridge door, and when you got home all your beer was warm!)

[Metabo Oyaji 71]

I ran LAN connections to all rooms in the house because I don't trust the security of wifi.

(Can always add a wifi repeater later if I get over it.)

 

They all go connect to a single room, where the optical fiber for the phone comes in. NTT optical modem splits out the telephone and internet connections there, to be fed through out the house.

 

There is also coax for the TV in all rooms.

[Alexander L 80]

the fridge needs connectivity because it needs to throw a cold one at the robot

 

so that robert can hand me one.

[JA2340 16]

I ran LAN connections to all rooms in the house because I don't trust the security of wifi.

(Can always add a wifi repeater later if I get over it.)

 

They all go connect to a single room, where the optical fiber for the phone comes in. NTT optical modem splits out the telephone and internet connections there, to be fed through out the house.

 

There is also coax for the TV in all rooms.

Security is an issue, granted. But, the wiring is dated (almost out-dated by the time you can place it in a building) and there's no guarantee that there'll be continued improvement in the speeds of wired ethernet. Current max is gigabit/sec (but many wifi setups are approaching that speed now) and the copper will not be able to cope with much faster than that for a while yet.

 

Fibre might be the way of the future, but laying fibre throughout a new build "just on the off chance that it will work with future technology" is frought!

 

Upgrading wifi is simply a matter of having the computer capability and upgrading the router/access point. When new technology is available, it is far simpler to upgrade wireless than wired - FACT!

[Alexander L 80]

I ran LAN connections to all rooms in the house because I don't trust the security of wifi.

(Can always add a wifi repeater later if I get over it.)

 

They all go connect to a single room, where the optical fiber for the phone comes in. NTT optical modem splits out the telephone and internet connections there, to be fed through out the house.

 

There is also coax for the TV in all rooms.

 

mate, your neighbours must be cussing at you for your mistrust in them.

[JA2340 16]

Security of WiFi is actually quite simple to organise. A long, complex pass phrase will do it, you do not have to remember it, as it is stored in the access device. Anything with non-dictionary words (or a combination of words that do not naturally go together) is a good start.

 

Additionally, you MUST change the SSID and administrator username/password of the router from the default - each manufacturer has a "standard" default name, and an associated "standard" administrator password for each model. This list is freely available on the internet and can be used to change the access password to whatever is desired, denying the legitimate user access, and permitting the data thief.

[Alexander L 80]

In actual fact, I am looking forward to the day when robots can actually serve us in our homes and also do the tedious commute driving and then coming home to park.

 

Gone would be taxis. Just a megatropolis of robot driven electric cars in hugely efficient traffic systems.

 

I'll give it 20 years.

[JA2340 16]

But by then, you'd be retired and not have to go to work!

[Alexander L 80]

the good for society as a whole.

 

and hopefully our intercontinental journeys would take less than 4 hours instead of half a day it is now.

 

and of course, jetpacks.

[Alexander L 80]

But by then, you'd be retired and not have to go to work!

 

and JA, I'll miss you.

[griller 9]

Where's that killer robot thread?

[Alexander L 80]

But by then, you'd be retired and not have to go to work!

 

and JA, I'll miss you.

 

 

NOT

 

[Metabo Oyaji 71]

I ran LAN connections to all rooms in the house because I don't trust the security of wifi.

(Can always add a wifi repeater later if I get over it.)

 

They all go connect to a single room, where the optical fiber for the phone comes in. NTT optical modem splits out the telephone and internet connections there, to be fed through out the house.

 

There is also coax for the TV in all rooms.

Security is an issue, granted. But, the wiring is dated (almost out-dated by the time you can place it in a building) and there's no guarantee that there'll be continued improvement in the speeds of wired ethernet. Current max is gigabit/sec (but many wifi setups are approaching that speed now) and the copper will not be able to cope with much faster than that for a while yet.

 

Fibre might be the way of the future, but laying fibre throughout a new build "just on the off chance that it will work with future technology" is frought!

 

Upgrading wifi is simply a matter of having the computer capability and upgrading the router/access point. When new technology is available, it is far simpler to upgrade wireless than wired - FACT!

 

I have Cat. 6 cables laid in conduits, so if it becomes desirable to upgrade them, that can be done easily by fishing through new lines. (Meaning, tie the new-fangled cable or fiber or superconducting neural doohicky or whatever to the end of the current cable, and give a big tug.)

 

Security of WiFi is actually quite simple to organise. A long, complex pass phrase will do it, you do not have to remember it, as it is stored in the access device. Anything with non-dictionary words (or a combination of words that do not naturally go together) is a good start.

 

Additionally, you MUST change the SSID and administrator username/password of the router from the default - each manufacturer has a "standard" default name, and an associated "standard" administrator password for each model. This list is freely available on the internet and can be used to change the access password to whatever is desired, denying the legitimate user access, and permitting the data thief.

 

Yeah, see, you lost me at the word "Additionally." I used to be one of those hot-shot, smart-ass young geeks who knew all the secret ways to break things. Now I'm an overweight, middle-aged lazy user who doesn't feel like becoming an easy target. So, to keep things simple, no use of wifi (or Windows) when logging into my bank account, for example. Not that raiding my account is going to make anybody rich, but I don't need the aggravation.