grungy-gonads 54 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 TOKYO —Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda plans to hold a news conference at 6 p.m. on Friday, at which he will explain the reasons to the public why the government wants to restart two reactors at the Oi nuclear power plant in Fukui Prefecture. Noda has said that it is necessary to restart the idled reactors whose safety has been confirmed and asked for the understanding of local authorities. A group of regional governors, long concerned about safety at the Kansai Electric Power Co’s two reactors in Ohi, last week signaled their agreement to the restarts as a “limited” step. Hurray! Back to ザ nuclear! That didn't last long did it. Link to post Share on other sites
HighlyTrainedNovaTeacher 2 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Can't they just turn off the bloody vending machine lights that burn out eyeballs up and down the country every night. Seriously the amount of light those things emit, it's ridiculous. Sorry I just got blinded by one last night, retinas still recovering. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 I hope they have laid on some extra taps and hose pipes this time. Just in case the water gets cut off. I would also advise people around there to fill up their baths with water. It may be needed to cool down those "rods". If everybody does their bit, there should be enough. Link to post Share on other sites
mina2 6 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Kind of missed this - have that actually decided to do this? Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Finally some common sense - make sure the reactors are safe and get them up and running again. Moreover, also set a limit on how many light bulks pachinko parlours can use. Link to post Share on other sites
best skier in hakuba 5 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 You want to live close to it Man? Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 You want to live close to it Man? If I worked there, and it was proven to be safe, then yes. Link to post Share on other sites
TheOriginalMyoko 0 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I'm not too far from that beast of a nuclear plant on the coast here in Niigata. Don't want them to open it. Link to post Share on other sites
fukdane 2 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 You want to live close to it Man? If I worked there, and it was proven to be safe, then yes. Weren't all of the nuclear plants "proven to be safe" up until last year? How do you prove them to be safe? To withstand a M8 earthquake directly under them? Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 You want to live close to it Man? If I worked there, and it was proven to be safe, then yes. Weren't all of the nuclear plants "proven to be safe" up until last year? How do you prove them to be safe? To withstand a M8 earthquake directly under them? How do you prove anything to be safe? Test it. Get some IAEA inspectors in. And let's be real, if there was an M8, the last thing on my mind would be about the nuclear power station, it would be making sure my family were safe. Link to post Share on other sites
klingon 10 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 "Test it. Get some IAEA inspectors in". Pre-March 2011, was this not the case for Japanese nuclear plants? Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 At the end of the day regardless to whether or not it is proven to be safe, Japan sits on the ring of fire, if a m8 quake strikes directly under it I would be surprised if the building housing he reactors didnt suffer some fairly hefty damage. Plus once a 10+ metre tsunami hits it can they still guarantee its safe? We have all this technology I sayThey bloody well put it to good use and use some safe form of power generation. Although nuclear power was cheapest to start with since the disaster it has now become the most expdnsive form of power generation, Stop nufleae I say! Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Safety approval = thick brown paper envelopes passed under tables. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 When you've got no plan B, there should be no surprise that its back to plan A. It would be nice to think this is an interim measure for say five years, but I doubt it to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Tell you what, these nuclear 'plants' can't be very efficient if they take 40 days to get into full swing!! (And of course years to cool down even if you douse it in cold bath water). My stove heater only takes about a minute to get going, and my fridge jolly well gets cold quickly too. And my microwave oven - gets a pie hot in a matter of seconds. Those nuclear engineers could do well to learn a lesson there, I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I used to be a big supporter of nuclear power, but have to admit that the bloom is a bit off the rose now. The long-term economics of nuclear power plants seem terrible, and as for the safety issues, well, I will confess that I had never before appreciated what an unstable equilibrium they operate at. Failures are rare, but can be extremely ugly. Given the investment made, and economic dependence on the things, I can see an argument for temporarily running some of them while accepting the risks of another disaster, but don't feed us a line about safety, stress tests, or how some fuku-daijin is going to niramekko the darn thing into submission, with the Prime Minister taking ultimate "responsibility." (Meaning what, is he taking firehose training?) I want to see a clear roadmap for getting rid of the things, not some daradara drift back into the pre-disaster status quo. Let's put some real resources into solving the energy storage problem, which will make solar, wind and other renewables usable as primary power sources. That is the path to the future, seems to me. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 ......with the Prime Minister taking ultimate "responsibility." (Meaning what, is he taking firehose training?) Sadly, I don't think the firehose training would work, Metabo. Unless perhaps it was the biggest hose ever! Actually that would be fun - a world record whilst saving the world from green goo - got it's good points! Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I used to be a big supporter of nuclear power, but have to admit that the bloom is a bit off the rose now. The long-term economics of nuclear power plants seem terrible, and as for the safety issues, well, I will confess that I had never before appreciated what an unstable equilibrium they operate at. Failures are rare, but can be extremely ugly. Given the investment made, and economic dependence on the things, I can see an argument for temporarily running some of them while accepting the risks of another disaster, but don't feed us a line about safety, stress tests, or how some fuku-daijin is going to niramekko the darn thing into submission, with the Prime Minister taking ultimate "responsibility." (Meaning what, is he taking firehose training?) I want to see a clear roadmap for getting rid of the things, not some daradara drift back into the pre-disaster status quo. Let's put some real resources into solving the energy storage problem, which will make solar, wind and other renewables usable as primary power sources. That is the path to the future, seems to me. I reckon nuclear power is great science but getting it work long term in a safe and cost effective way is way beyond the capability of current human society. The nuclear power we have is the result of short-term compromise on top of miscalculation on top of budget overrun on top of "we'd like some plutonium for bombs", probably with a bit of "we'd like to be re-elected" in there as well. That's not how you should go about doing something that is very complex and has multigenerational benefits and costs. They've been fudging it and reducing the discussion to some brainless one about predicted vs. actual tsunami height, but that Tohoku coast has historically been prone to tsunamis. It was an extra dangerous place to put a nuclear power station. For the restarting issue, it doesn't mean that other coasts of Japan are equally at risk. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I think we should seriously look at generating electricity by burning Pringles.......we can also shave off a few inches of the West's bulging waistlines! Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I think we should seriously look at generating electricity by burning Pringles.......we can also shave off a few inches of the West's bulging waistlines! How about burning the fat off of people too? Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 I think we should seriously look at generating electricity by burning Pringles.......we can also shave off a few inches of the West's bulging waistlines! How about burning the fat off of people too? great idea!! In fact I can start it off, I have more than enough to spare **not quite as much as THAT guy, mind you! Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 You realise that means no more bacon, Tubby. Link to post Share on other sites
surfarthur 22 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 No, tubby needs to eat lots of bacon, then it would be a renewable energy source. Good on you tubby for doing your part for sustainability 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 yep, I agree with surfarthur.....gotta be renewable in this day in age!! That reminds me, gotta go turn over my bacon!! Link to post Share on other sites
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