brit-gob 9 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3894225.stm Sounds crap. What exactly is their definition of broadband anyways? Is there an agreed standard? Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 All I can say is......it's rubbish. I'm back here now, and my family have "broadband". Feels more like dialup to me. Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 It is sheer crap, no doubt about it. even 2M would cost a bomb per month. Really 3rd world... probably the same in Australia and some Euro countries. Hello Rach , welcome to myUK Link to post Share on other sites
Error404 0 Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 That surprises me.... any particular reason why it is so bad (apart from the often heard "rip off britain" tagline?) Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 I don't know much to compare with (seeing as though I live here) but I was surprised at how fast the web seemed the short time we were in Japan. Perhaps its better I don't know the details! Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Is there a high % of takeup over there then? Like most people on bb? Link to post Share on other sites
echineko 1 Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 It must be frustrating. Is there many internet cafe in UK towns? Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Being used to broadband in Japan, being here and using the web is almost painful I've seen a few cafes around, surely they have the uk version of narrow broadband, I might give them a try actually. Link to post Share on other sites
akibun 0 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 How fast is connection there? Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted July 30, 2004 Share Posted July 30, 2004 My 1MB service is being connected next week. It takes 10 days to get connected!! 1M vs. Japan's standard 8M-12M. 1M is not even standard, it requires paying up for retail ADSL "speed". Standard ADSL costs about £20 per month (4000 yen!!) for a huge 0.5M, thats 24 times slower than the same priced service in Japan. My 1M will cost the equivalent of 6000 yen per month. It is a disgrace. The infrastructural difference between London the UK and Australia is almost zero. No offence to the UK intended, I am happy here.... but it really does resemble a crumbled empire at times (that brash statement is based on ADSL speed, not much more ) Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Nice comment there I wasn't really aware of how bad we had it internet connection wise until I came on here and heard about what you guys have. I just want to know one thing ------ WHY. Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 No rudeness was intended, I am just a little suprised here and there. My ADSL service started today. I pulled my free ADSL modem out of the box only to find that it is a USB style modem. Never dealt with one of them before and I know why: it doesn't support routered LANS. Oh poor me. I tried buying one that did at the local large computer shop: not a chance. I now am officially giving up on sharing my ADSL conenction between computers and am selling my expensive wireless router and wifi networking card that I bought for the job. Once again, poor me. Link to post Share on other sites
slow 0 Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 It's because the british people are unhurried people. This is my impression of them. They have unhurried life which I want to learn. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Isn't it just because BT have a dirty great monopoly on the final mile? BT are completely crap (far worse than NTT) and OfTel or whoever it is in the government that's supposed to monitor them is powerless/lazy/probably staffed with ex-BT people. slow British people get extremely frustrated by but ultimately put up with poor services. It's more to do with not wanting to cause trouble and possibly not knowing what good service is than with some romantic que sera sera/mai pen lai notion of inner peace and taking it as it comes. To see slow life in action, you should go to southern Europe. Dear It's a bodge, but you may be able to share your internet connection on a LAN by running software on the machine connected to the USB modem. You can do it with Windows for sure. Unlike a router, it means your main machine has to stay on. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Slow life is definitely better seen in other areas of Europe, slow, for sure. My folks have a 1MB connection here now thank the lord, and its not too bad..... cant tell that much difference from my connection in Japan actually even though the numbers make it sound much different. Im sure I'd notice it more though if I were downloading big files here - which I'm not. I'm choosing to enjoy the torrential rain and storms of the day. Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted August 8, 2004 Share Posted August 8, 2004 What a relief to get away from UK internet connections That was tiring. Link to post Share on other sites
cheeseman 1 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 My friend over there was so proud of his 1MB connection! (But he does have the cheeses to compensate) Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 well why don't all of you whingers try Bali's "dedicated line / high speed connection"! like watching paint dry. they are still on 56k dial up! Link to post Share on other sites
Weegeoff 0 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I have no chance of getting any kind of broadband untill April 05, And you have to be 6K,s from the telephone exchange. I drove it in my car and clock 5 so i,ve got my fingers crossed Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted August 16, 2004 Share Posted August 16, 2004 Quote: they are still on 56k dial up! ....most in the UK still are.... (unless theyre lucky to have that "super high speed 1MB connection" for 30 quid a month. Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 It is funny the way they advertise the super duper super highspeed fastest in the world 1MB deal - for just 6000 yen a month!!! ACE! What a deal! Some of the people I told about my access in Japan thought I was fibbing, they couldn't believe it - and were very jealous. So they should be, its awful. Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 he he, you used "Ace" and "Fibbing" in one post. Cool. I do agree though. I extend the same mania to the ridiculous sms/text culture. I am not a fan of the mobile phone but jesus, give me Japanese hardware, software and networks ANYDAY over the common western world set up. One thing I have noticed is that everything is a scam here. There are no end of obviously sly ways to suck people into a crappy phone deal or a crappy ADSL deal. We even get spam fax's at our office!! Spam via fax?! I laughed when I saw that. I constantly feel that everyone is out to swindle and shaft the next guy. Link to post Share on other sites
merryJim 1 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Funny. I have no complaints about the connections here in the US - comparable with what I have in Japan and been round longer too. Why is the UK such a ripoff then, you often hear about it. Whats the deal with that? Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3697892.stm .....although they really are stretching the meaning of the word "broadband" here folks. Bad you, japan folks, for opening my eyes to all this. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 economies of scale/return on capital... and of course, getting money out of the Japanese for set-up/service of even something crap but new is quite easy. The japanese are also quick to upgrade at additional cost, so a quick return for new technologies is nearly always guaranteed. back to econ of scale/return - laying 100 meters of cable in Japan could conceivably service 100 paying customers, whereas in London it may only be one. The huge customer base supported by relatively low capital investment allows a cheap, fast service constantly upgradable. the same theory explains the great transport network here. (not that this forgives all of the UK's ills...) Anyway, that'll soon be a thing of the past, if you vote for Blair, that is, who promises broadband to every home in the UK... if you vote for him Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts