The Takayama Tearer 0 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Read this with interest. http://www.snowjapan.com/e/insider/result_journal.php?Nresorts1=153 Is there any more info on this place. Access maps and tracks. Avvy danger? After April only? Possible now? I've hiked around here heaps during the summer only. Enquiring minds want to know. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 you arent allowed to ski there anymore but you can if you lie a bit you can ride. Avy daner yes of course big mountain big snow Link to post Share on other sites
daver 0 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 any reasons, aside from the inherent big mountain risks, as to why they have closed this area to skiers? Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 The ski hill blows goats Pretty good access to the big mountain of Hotaka for a real mountaineer Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 As he said. Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Quote: the big mountain of Hotaka I am like a fly to shit. Nice mountain, any other pictures? Hakuba is becoming Hollywood these days I'm still searching for my spot, away from the crowds and in a big mountain area, I want to buy a little bit of land. Link to post Share on other sites
The Takayama Tearer 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 That mountain is Kasagatake. Climbed it once. Anyway, I have read the signs at the ropeway station sating not to ski. Lie a bit? To whom do you have to lie to? Is the access point for the hike near the ropeway building? I know that this valley has claimed a lot of lives due to avalanche and over zealous hikers getting hyperthermia etc. But, it is still way early season and there is the possibility that a weekend excursion here could beat the shit out of going back to Takasu for fake snow, crowds and 1,000 yen parking. 700 meters vert in two hours? Is this the hike that leads over to Kamikochi.....by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites
woywoy 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Looks excellent DB. Link to post Share on other sites
slow 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Is this the place there is a very nice free rotenburo by the river? Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by slow: Is this the place there is a very nice free rotenburo by the river? Yes it is Slow TTT the Godola drops you off about 30 minutes below a ridge. From the ridge you could hike into Kamikochi I'd just stick to resort dude Link to post Share on other sites
The Takayama Tearer 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Quote: TTT the Godola drops you off about 30 minutes below a ridge. From the ridge you could hike into Kamikochi I'd just stick to resort dude So the gondola actually lets you on with ski gear? I dunno, its just too attractive sounding to not at least go and have a peep and look around. And the weather is freaking perfect, not a cloud in the sky......and the alps are covered in snow. Got a call from a mate at Washi telling me that it was ok there.......hmmmm. BTW the free onsen at Shin Hodaka is closed, but there is another one down the road at Toshio. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 be very carefull there. If you ski back down the same way they get pissed off. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 The gondola should let you on with ski gear. As long as you say you are not skiing back down the old ski runs. They shouldn't be able to stop ski-mountaineers which would be the people going up higher. It's not somewhere to learn how to ski in the backcountry. Those are big mountains with huge avy runouts. In spring 2004 I skinned up one of the runs in April. Was kind of fun but that was a long time ago before I demanded more from a backcountry trip Link to post Share on other sites
snowboard 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Great pics, looks an awesome area. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Searched my pictures I have loads of shots of everything else in that area except the ski hill I summited Kasa 3 times out of 6 attempts and not one shot directly across the valley Link to post Share on other sites
The Takayama Tearer 0 Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 Well, did a recon trip today, and went up to the first gondola stop. The snow is still up very high (further than I really want to go) So, skiing under the gondola and old runs is pretty much ruled eh? hmm. Very clear weather though. On the way back had a very nice view of the backside of Nori. Its a shame that there is no open road to Tatamidaira (i think thats it) this time of year. I dont mean the bus route from Honoki, I mean the (now)closed gate left turn before the Hirayu tunnel. There must be a way to get there, because when I went there the first time on the bus, there were private cars parked at the bottom of the Nori runs, and the road was completely blocked with snow between the Tatami area and the top Nori bus stop, which means there must be another way to get there. Just hate wasting good money on shite like washi this time of year. Just gonna have to wait like everyone else, I think. Nori Cam Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 There are 2 ways to get to that pass Either from Hirayu side or from Hounoki side I did some backcountry skiing in that area a couple years ago. Pretty flat. Although there are some fun runs on the Hounoki side. Doesn't get a lot of snow though You're just going to have to wait Which is a good thing Link to post Share on other sites
The Takayama Tearer 0 Posted November 26, 2006 Author Share Posted November 26, 2006 Waiting is shitting the hell out of me. But, the specialiast snowboard joint in Takayama has discounted its video prices from 4,000 yen to 500 yen. Link to post Share on other sites
Kumapix 0 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 is that Piledriver? Link to post Share on other sites
The Takayama Tearer 0 Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Yeah, thats the one. Very cool shop, but its only the 500 yen vids I can afford from that place. Anyway, I decided that I am going to head up that road to Nori from Hirayu on the weekend if the weather is good. Park at the gate and walk. How many hours am I up for? 1? 2? 3? Otherwise Ill sit around the house and get drunk all weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 mate go through the tunnel after the tunnel make your first left and head up yakedake from there. Link to post Share on other sites
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