mattlucas 0 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Sudans is still called Sudans But it is sometimes named Couloir Extreme which is kind of dorky. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Toque kenichi bought your skis for ...... how much do you think with bindings Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 50,000 Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 They will be really good for him. He was a completly different skier on the fats. Link to post Share on other sites
johndknm 0 Posted January 26, 2005 Author Share Posted January 26, 2005 Just the easier lines dont want more injuries...i ski ok thesedays...for an aussie neway... Link to post Share on other sites
powda tele 0 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Phool. I ski the SP's. I'm 63kg and ski the 179's. You might want to go the 189's. Personally, I think they rock, but I agree with someone above - what you should ski may not match what you want to ski. Match the ski for the style of skiing you do. The SP's are designed for long, fast turns in open areas. Thus, they come into their own on big lines. Sure, you can throw them around in the trees, but it's much more work. They love deep powder, but they're not very flash on piste. If I'm skiing lots of tight things (moguls/trees) or if I don't have much depth under foot, I much prefer my mid-fat skis. If you want to go real fast, and open them up into long turns, and you've got opens slopes to do that, then the SP's great. If you want something more versatile that can do trees better and cope with piste better, and if that really is the kind of skiing you're doing, then I'd go a mid-fat. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 toque he paid 70000 thousand for them used. I had this talk with tats though. Kenichi needs more basics he needs to work on certain things before I take him into other lines. Big Fats or not. Link to post Share on other sites
johndknm 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by Fattwins: Why did WB rename sudans anyways Urban legend 1) that some french guy wanted to sue for royalties on the name? 2) the "troubles" and political correctness. I was still spooked by the time I got to the top of the saddam. I dont want to seem like too much of a pu$$y but I sat there for 20 minutes trying to overcome my fear of falling 400 yards. The entry I know I could do and that was the hardest bit....the first 10 yrds!!!... Really just a 3 foot wide steep (1 ski wide) slide and to the top of a bump and then it was open and actually not as steep as red...the minds a funny thing isnt it...I just couldnt do it.....( i was very very lucky i didnt get choppered out of red it was a long rag doll scenario without an injury! except of the brain).... Link to post Share on other sites
Siem Reeves 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 go to this site, the 03/04 seth pistols are only 34,800 - i bought my big stix from this shop in kutchan near niseko... but they are 169 (good length for me ) http://www.spotaki.co.jp/ski2003freeski.html keep your eyes on this shop, they have really good sales! Link to post Share on other sites
johndknm 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by powda tele: Thus, they come into their own on big lines. Sure, you can throw them around in the trees, but it's much more work. They love deep powder, but they're not very flash on piste. If I'm skiing lots of tight things (moguls/trees) or if I don't have much depth under foot, I much prefer my mid-fat skis. If you want to go real fast, and open them up into long turns, and you've got opens slopes to do that, then the SP's great. If you want something more versatile that can do trees better and cope with piste better, and if that really is the kind of skiing you're doing, then I'd go a mid-fat. Good luck. Its so hard knowing what fast and big are isnt it! I run into this problem on other forums. Its just hard to put into words what everyone considers "hard" and "fast". Thats why Ive been going to some lengths to try and paint a picture of what I do now. Now this picture is constantly evolving. For me I am definitely getting better each year. I think I can grow into the Seth Pistols and my skiing will evolve to be faster and "bigger". The impression I get is that PRs are soft and SPs are like "big PRs", stiffer, but still soft compared to many of the other "bigline" less sidecut fats out there. Real Fast isnt me yet. I am if nothing else committed to improving. Some at home would even say unhealthily obsessed with improvement. I always get private lessons, I get lots and lots. In the last 5 seasons Ive gone from high intermediate into expert (in 99 I would not have been doing dbl blk diamonds). I am just beginning to feel the mountains are opening up for real. Dont get me wrong about not being able to ski fast. My wife who is not as good as me and Keba were clocking 100kph on a green run at red mountain (those GPS things are nifty arnt they ... following the instructor sometimes is hazardous). Im sure I could have kept up or exceeded that. I do carve okay. I had a crack at a local Nastar thing with Keba. He beat me one week (bronze). Next week he had gone, I had practiced (silver). @ Whistler last feb he passed me on the other course just hammering it. Like I was stationary! Pity he _totally_ spread himself over 2 gates (the price of going over the edge hehehee). Ripping it in powder on a treed run and bowls with air is ultimately what I want to be but Im not there yet. Overall Im thinking SPs, LBFs if I can find them at a discount, then the other less well know twins.. Link to post Share on other sites
johndknm 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by Shimba: go to this site, the 03/04 seth pistols are only 34,800 - i bought my big stix from this shop in kutchan near niseko... but they are 169 (good length for me ) http://www.spotaki.co.jp/ski2003freeski.html keep your eyes on this shop, they have really good sales! Thanks for the heads up. Ive spoken to them but unfotunately they only have 169 03/04s and the 04/5 come in at 100000 with 912 ti sally bindings and fat brakes. 03/04 in 179 would be an instant buy Link to post Share on other sites
keba 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 It would be fair to say you are a deliberate skier, when it comes to technique... I will continue to focus on getting my first beer in while waiting for you at the bottom... Link to post Share on other sites
johndknm 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by keba: It would be fair to say you are a deliberate skier, when it comes to technique... I will continue to focus on getting my first beer in while waiting for you at the bottom... We shall definitely see... Link to post Share on other sites
jared 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I love my sp's. They are great for any soft snow occasion - even soft cords. Although, you said that you want to ride park adn pipe in the first post. Unless you are going to be going absoloutely huge or just doing straight airs I would have to recomend a smaller ski for the park. Link to post Share on other sites
johndknm 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Author Share Posted January 27, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by Captain Stag: I love my sp's. They are great for any soft snow occasion - even soft cords. Although, you said that you want to ride park adn pipe in the first post. Unless you are going to be going absoloutely huge or just doing straight airs I would have to recomend a smaller ski for the park. 80% off piste, we'll see with the park I wont be hanging there with the crew if you get my drift. Im thinking skiing Seths a little short may make them a little more suited to me (ease the turns). FT is always talking 180+ and Im always thinking 180- failing finding a pair at a reasonable price i will hunt for one of the other skis. Jimbocho here I come! Thnks C. Just in time cause we fly to noz TOMORROW Y A Y ! Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 its your wieght mate at 90kg youll sink more with a 169 into powder. too be honest 169 seth wont be a bad pow park ski like about 60 40 pow to park. you wont be able to go as fast as the 179s but you get a bit of park mixed in Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by keba: It would be fair to say you are a deliberate skier, when it comes to technique... I will continue to focus on getting my first beer in while waiting for you at the bottom... Thats what always happens when i ski with toque and fattwins...right Link to post Share on other sites
keba 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 I will confess that the powder will slow me down (a lot), especially as I've deliberately avoided getting powder-specific skis, but will try to keep up on my Elan 666 Mantis 168cm... I may have to invest in new skis if this theory fails. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by phool: FT is always talking 180+ and Im always thinking 180- I have to say it as well. You are a big guy and you are only going to get better. Why lock yourself in on a short ski. The fat ski is going to bring you up to a new level pretty damm quick. My 2 cents. 180-190 in a mid-fat to fat ski Good luck on finding cheap skis. Getting into Sudan's is scary. I remember skiing that when I was 12 and being freaked out of my mind Now the traverse along Chainsaw ridge (skiers left of Sudans) gets the adrenaline flowing. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by Toque: The fat ski is going to being you up to a new level pretty damm quick. I be leveling up and increasing up my skill up by being up with you pretty damn quick. Wot you saying boy? Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 ahhh, thursday, only one class first period and then nuttin ta do. I hate being so well organized, have all lessons planned, and got my marking finished Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 You are already on fat skis though Think how you would be skiing the powder on skinnies Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 ive skied my enemys in powder and that was a bi#ch to do - theyre only 174 and like 74 in the waist... I luv my AKs more than any GF Ive had Link to post Share on other sites
keba 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Sorry Toque, were you referring to the Mantis's? Link to post Share on other sites
keba 0 Posted January 27, 2005 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Because they aren't fat skis, but you know that.... Link to post Share on other sites
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