r46 0 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Or not? Link to post Share on other sites
Will Lee 0 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 You bet! Isn`t that why we all started skiing/boarding? Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Er no, that's not why I started. But I don't mind wearing cool duds to roll around in the crud like a landed fish... Link to post Share on other sites
amandanism 0 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 theres a very thin line between being cool, and being utterly daggy. Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Francis 0 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Nah, I'm way cool without doing anything Link to post Share on other sites
js 0 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 How about being sensibly attired? What's the opinions for: Skiers: wearing very serious mountain wear i.e. mountaineering duds and tech. jackets - are these seen as cool, sensible, professional or dorky? Snowboarders: wearing trousers that have the crutch near their knees and aluminium foil type jackets topped off with a helmet? Telemarkers: a moving hazard, graceful and agile, professional, or just too damn hard? SZ Link to post Share on other sites
Chumbawamba 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Yes Link to post Share on other sites
enderzero 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Actually that's funny because I did first start snowboarding because I thought it looked cool. I had skied for many years before that, though. Link to post Share on other sites
petsj 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I always think im cool carrying my board up to the lifts, then i see all these people that can board waaaay better than me, then i end up with a low self esteem for the rest of the day Link to post Share on other sites
RayInJapan 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 "cool" is in the eye of the beholder but I find most people that THINK they are cool, are actually not, and most people that don't think they are cool, really are... Reference SZ's questions on opinions Skiers (japanese as I haven't seen many gaijin skiers) - Not cool though they think they are, speeding down the mountain like they own it, turning right next to you even though the "gelende" is 50 meters wide, or skiing in groups of 10 or more, right behind each other and taking up the entire slope side to side making it difficult to pass, then skiing to the front of the line at the lift even though there are 30 people already waiting in a nice orderly line, or if they do go to the back of the line, don't think anything of touching your board with the tips of their skis over and over from behind in the lift line until you turn around and polite say "stop it". Bladers are pretty cool. If I had to give up snowboarding, I think I'd learn to blade before resorting to long ski's. Boarders - Wish I had some baggy pants - mine are size O but still barely fit. Tele's - I like them - usually very polite skiers and pretty predictable in their path so its easy to avoid them - also, they don't create mogul bumps which are the boarders nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites
simes 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Nope, but I'm not even approaching being able to be cool. Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Not really, but I like watching (unpretentious) cool dudes Link to post Share on other sites
enderzero 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 The least cool guys out there are the jump suit wearing, unformed cap sporting mogul skiers. Especially at the 47 terrain park. Always entertaining to ride up on the lift and watch these guys methodically swishing their hips back and forth. Link to post Share on other sites
Plucky 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Ender - just come up here. we could care less about cool and not cool screw it. If you suck and are a beginner We could have some prob. email. me privately- we'll show you around Link to post Share on other sites
mogski 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Quote: Originally posted by RayInJapan: Tele's - I like them - usually very polite skiers and pretty predictable in their path so its easy to avoid them - also, they don't create mogul bumps which are the boarders nightmare. Not a Tele'er, but I will take this remark as a slip of the thought and consideration process. This has been done before, but boarders are just as much to blame for moguls as skiers. As far as looking cool goes, I don't need to look to be cool Link to post Share on other sites
echineko 1 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I'm more sexy than cool. But I love cool guys. Cool nice guys. Link to post Share on other sites
RayInJapan 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 First for the moguls - I have been to resorts that are mostly boarders (Geto, Hachimantai, and Hakkoda) where fresh powder gets chopped up, but doesn't turn into big carving bumps like the slopes at Appi, Shizukuishi, Tazawako, Amihari where it seems 70 percent of the folks are skiers. Skiers take the same line down the slope, and the end result is the mogul bumps. If you're a skier, its no big deal, and I suspect quite the challenge to try and turn in the exact same spot as the person in front of you. If you're a boarder though, trying to take that line can be more effort that its worth as most boarders can't (or don't want to) swish their board back and forth every 3 feet like a skier does. So we end up carving bigger turns which inevitably lead you over the mogul bumps. In the AM, they're a good challenge to try and avoid but by the afternoon, there are so many of the bumps there's no way to avoid them. About the "slip" part - no slip at all - based on my experience, which is all here in Japan, and mostly Japanese skiers for obviouse reasons, Telemarkers don't go speeding down the mountain with a very "uncaring" attitude. Someone else mentioned "mountain manners"...I think Tele's have the best manners of everyone on the mountain. When I said "avoid them", I meant in the sense of knowing their intended path so I can give them a wide berth without having to worry about getting to close where a last second move by either results in a collision. I don't have that same confidence when I'm passing a regular skier. Just this past sunday - I was at Amihari, a small resort next to Shizukuishi and the slope opened to about 75 meters wide. There were lots on skiers on the right side, so I went all the way to the left side and this one young lady comes zooming by on the right and then turns in front of me and stops right in front of me so I had to stop to avoid hitting her. She could have easily skied in behind me and then but I guess that would have inconvienced her so instead she chose to inconvience me. Don't get me wrong - I've seen some inconsiderate boarders too, and I'm sure skiers have plenty of stories about what "punks" we are too... The bottom line I guess is "different strokes for different strokes", and there are inconsiderate people everywhere you look no matter where you're at, but here in Japan sometimes it seems as though some people really take advantage of the Japanese custom of not saying anything instead of speaking up when they see an indiscretion. This is probably a topic for another thread, but i wonder how it would go if a couple of resorts in each region went "skier only" and "Boarder Only".... Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 yeah Ray, all well and good mate, but is being cool important to you? Link to post Share on other sites
RayInJapan 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Like Popeye says, "I am what I am" db. If some folks think I'm cool, thats cool. If some folks don't, thats cool too. So I guess my answer to the original question is "no". Link to post Share on other sites
Markie 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 You are both cool and sexy, echineko, but I definitely agree with you that you are more SEXY. Link to post Share on other sites
mikazooki 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 some my friends back home r 'very cool' and as the years pass they r getting less and less interesting. whereas the guys that never cared have retained their appeal. i can feel any coolness i had dripping away. but the boardin will keep me hip! right, ladies? Link to post Share on other sites
igloo 3 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Very Link to post Share on other sites
zwelgen 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I like the old Dr Seuss quote: those that mind dont matter and those that matter dont mind. Link to post Share on other sites
enderzero 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Hey Plucky - I am down dude, but I thought you were all busted up now. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Quote: Originally posted by RayInJapan: .I think Tele's have the best manners of everyone on the mountain. . Here here! Link to post Share on other sites
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