grungy-gonads 54 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Incredibly, yes, I have heard of google. However, I am simply not in the least bit interested in learning how to construct a computer and then actually going about trying to do it. For a start, I value my time too much. And I would probably make a mess of it. And I can pay a company such a Dell or whoever to simply send me a box that works. I could spend my whole life googling to learn how to do a whole boat load of stuff. I could learn how to build a boat. Or I could learn how to fix a boiler. Or perhaps build a house. But I choose not too. I choose to pay for the convenience of other people doing the things for me that I can't/don't want to do where possible. I'm pretty sure you do that too with some things in your life. Perhaps I just have too much money. Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 O.K That's cool.. I am a bit ingrained to do things what I can do myself because I can do it better than paying someone to do it most of the time, and I didn't have money (still don't). Like fixing up old cars ... I learnt a lot from younger kids when I started with computers. I once went to a shop to buy some partition software. The kid at the shop taught me how to do it and he said he and his mates don't have 40 bucks to buy software so they try and figure things out by themselves. I was impressed. I was 40 at that time but he inspired me to learn. say no more ... Link to post Share on other sites
klingon 10 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Originally Posted By: RobBright It takes two hours tops. Sorry just had to laugh at that. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Originally Posted By: Jynxx I learnt a lot from younger kids when I started with computers. I once went to a shop to buy some partition software. The kid at the shop taught me how to do it and he said he and his mates don't have 40 bucks to buy software so they try and figure things out by themselves. I was impressed. I was 40 at that time but he inspired me to learn. say no more ... Just because I don't want to learn how to construct a computer from scratch or how to build a boat [or whatever else] does not mean that I don't want to learn anything. And I hope you weren't implying such a thing. There are many things that I want to learn. And I do. No doubt you would not be interested or want to devote your time to learning some of the things that I do. I won't mock you for having differing preferences and priorities with your own time and resources. Surely this is not such a difficult concept to understand? Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I do accept gg - its his money and he can spend it however he likes. Not disputing that point at all - disputing the myth that computers are difficult to build. And why laughin at two hours klingon? Link to post Share on other sites
klingon 10 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Why laugh? Because it was funny! '2 hours tops' I think you said. Well sure maybe for someone who knows what they are doing and has all the correct pieces of the puzzle ready in front of them. But as a general statement that is simply laughable. For someone who doesn't know what they are doing and has no experience of making a computer - and I would guess that is most people - they first would need to learn what is needed. My guess is that for many non-technically minded people that would take a considerable amount of time not to mention frustration, and they wouldn't be confident even then. Then they would have to go out and buy all the parts - and at the same time be sure they all go together. Where do they buy them from? I wouldn't know that myself. The main electric shops near where I live don't stock all that is needed to make a computer. It's difficult enough for lots of people - as shown in the threads over the last few days - to choose what to put into a Dell that has an automated online guide thingy to help them, so how much more of a nightmare will that be for people who know little about the difference between a core, quad, dual core, i7-950, i7-950, raid 0, raid 1 etc etc etc? There are a bewildering number of options and configurations. I'm fairly into technology stuff but even I would need to spend a bit of time learning up on whats out there now*. If you don't know much about this kind of thing, to learn about it will take a lot of time. Then of course you would need to put it all together. And then install the os or whatever. It's laughable to suggest that it's 'easy' in a general sense. Yes, it's easy for people who know how to do it. But then again most things are easy once you know how to do them, aren't they? (* actually I wouldn't, I'd pay for some company to build one for me) Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Hey...I replaced a carbie, spark plugs and radiator hoses on Papa's HK Holden way back when we were dating and had not a penny to pay a mechanic to do it. That is also like Lego. Would I choose to do that myself these days - not a snowballs chance in hell. I am pretty much with GG on this one. My kid can build his own PC if that's what takes his fancy, but I would rather pay someone who does that for a living to stick it all together for me and say 'There you are Madam, all ready to go'. And I would say "Thank you " and whip out my cheque book. Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 g-g I didn't mean it that way. Nothing personal OK ? maybe it's in the genes or one's upbringing. Some kids grow up buying toys, some grow up making them. well Ma'bear remember you mentioned about the service you get with cars? They are supposed to be people who does things for a living, yeah ? Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 True Jynxx. True. And I need to learn plumbing, electric's, and patio construction - coz I cant get a decent one of them either!! Link to post Share on other sites
kokodoko 67 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I built most of my machines except the last one, I just couldnt be bothered. I bought it off the kid I have known for a long time. I know he is ubergeekerer than me. The first one I built, I was totally freaked out about it, then it got easier and easier... no problemo. Now i would rather go surfing than pull apart a box. I also hate working on my car now. I used to do all the work on it. As for 64bit, I would love it, except that the programs I use are not written for 64bit.. so whats the point. ? I would love 12gig of ram.. muahahahahah.. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Perhaps I shouldn't be getting into this as I don't know much about it at all but -- doesn't most modern software work on both (32 + 64)? Link to post Share on other sites
kokodoko 67 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 probably, but whats the point of running 64bit when the app doesnt run at that.. thats my viewpoint. i may be totally wrong of course. Maybe the use of extra ram will make the 32bit app run faster so that would be good. Its all academic anyway as i wont be changing anything in the near future, doh! Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I have absolutely no idea. Perhaps I should not be bothering replying. On the subject of "it's easy building your own computer". I could give you a list of 23,849,829,802 things (give or take a few) I would rather do than that! Link to post Share on other sites
greymountain 0 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I don't understand this 32 and 64 stuff. What I get is that if I go 64 I can stuff more memory in the computer. Beyond that it gets all fuzzy. Windows 7 does sound an improvement on Vista. I will be getting a new computer fairly soon, look forward to trying it out. Link to post Share on other sites
seemore 66 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I just got a new computer and it gave me a choice between 32 and 64 so of course I went for 64. Half of the programs I run (CAD) don't work and it sucked trying to reboot. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Choice when you started up was that seemore? I need to look into this more myself as I'm thinking of replacing one of mine. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: RobBright my pc.... AMD quad core 9.8ghz 8gb DDR 3 ram-1600 1.5tb hdd 2 x NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 260 1792MB and only got a 24" monitor. Doesn't mean a whole lot to me I'm afraid but Rob how much would a Dell or Sony be asking for that lot? Link to post Share on other sites
seemore 66 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Yeh it just came up with 32 or 64 no explanation. And I thought about Nintendo 64 and that is ancient so I presumed load 64. Apparantely it was incorrect for my needs and to link up with work. Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 OK just got a quote on the phone from Dell. Online price - 350,000 yen Phone price - 295,000 yen Exactly the same specs. Shocking that the price difference is so much actually just by calling them up! Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 It is nonsense too because you should actually have to pay more for being handheld by the phone operator. Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 Specs W7 ultimate 2 Xeon e5504 CPUs(4MB) 12GB DDR3 Nvidia Quadro fx3800 Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share Posted October 27, 2009 I have to order and pay today if I want to take them up on that offer! Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 That is a big difference. I suppose they feel with the personal touch they will grab you in and don't want to let you know. Still, it's a huge chunk of change. I always presumed the online would be cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: pie-eater I have absolutely no idea. Perhaps I should not be bothering replying. On the subject of "it's easy building your own computer". I could give you a list of 23,849,829,802 things (give or take a few) I would rather do than that! I've walked into a computer mall, to a little shop, looked at the list of what they can build, chose one, paid half, came back an hour later and it's assembled, loaded, ready for demo testing for me. It's simple 'cos they are a shop and I know vaguely what I wanted. Don't think you can do that in other countries. Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Yes, but that's why your PC looks like this: Link to post Share on other sites
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