JA2340 16 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Originally Posted By: Nisoko The fact is most people aren't bothered about wanting to be deep in the middle of a Japanese experience other than being here and enjoying the awesome snow. People get hooked on Japan once they have been here the first time. Nisoko, So, how do they get them there in the first place?? Yes, the awesome snow is a good thing, but the experience is the next step. Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Take care, Soubs, sending good vibes out your way for Soubriquette. Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Thanks sunrise. She still has to go for a full body scan (Y100,000) but the tests are over. Full biopsy results on Monday morning. It's making me very nervous. Link to post Share on other sites
journey_man 0 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I'll bet. Good luck with that. Link to post Share on other sites
journey_man 0 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Originally Posted By: JA So, how do they get them there in the first place?? I think you are asking how can people avoid a Japanese experience getting to Niseko? Well if that is the question, I can say I managed it. The first time I came to Japan I flew London - Narita, an hour later I was on a plane Narita - Chitose and very shortly after that I was on a bus to Higashiyama. On that trip I only actually dealt with two Japanese people. A fairly minimal Japanese experience! Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 And all the worse for it. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I couldn't seee the forest for the trees... Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 A young guy who used to be my apprentice is a keen snowboarder. He rang me yesterday to ask about Japan and where he should go. He's not travelled much, and is a typical young Aussie lad who often gets himself into some good natured mischief. He is a great kid from a great family, but I was reluctant to send him to Niseko for fear of any trouble he might get into (he's going with a bunch of mates which is more the worry). Maybe I'm paranoid. On the other hand I think the experience would do him (and his mates) good. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Mantas, That is funny. Your loyalties are now with Niseko I handed an advertising DVD (have a little stock of them) some of my pic's and a whole pile of assorted info to a lecturer at TAFE where I work this week. She is wanting to take her teenaged son's somewhere for thier first snow experience. Of course I did the math for her based on a 2 weeks holiday - comparing Aus/NZ with Niseko - no surprise she was keen on Niseko .... an international holiday and great snow trip all in one. This is why the popularity of Niseko has grown so exponentially - people go home thrilled with thier expereince and pass the word ... if just one of two of those people go the following year the thing just GROWS! Who needs advertising! Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Add to that, for you sandgropers, there's NO time difference! And just 2 hours for us easterners. Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Originally Posted By: Mamabear Mantas, That is funny. Your loyalties are now with Niseko Nah....I don't buy into that Niseko v Hakuba crap. I like them both for different reasons. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Originally Posted By: Mantas Originally Posted By: Mamabear Mantas, That is funny. Your loyalties are now with Niseko Nah....I don't buy into that Niseko v Hakuba crap. I like them both for different reasons. Sorry...I should have been more clear! I meant your loyalties are now with Niseko OVER Australia (Nothing to do with Hakuba). You wanted to recommend Niseko to these boys, but were cautious in case they didn't do the right thing...tells me you have strong feelings about protecting Niseko. I think that is sweet. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 maybe you could've reccommended Roponggi first? Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Maybe it is time to diversify. Just say you've heard a lot of good things about Shiga Kogen and send them there. Perhaps they could help open up the nightlife and hence the Aus market. Link to post Share on other sites
PWL 0 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 How long a flight is it to Japan from Australia? Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 10 hours from Sydney, maybe 8-9 from Perth? Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Thats not much closer than the UK. Without the jetlag though! Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 But it a heck of a lot closer to Aus than a hike to USA, Canada or Europe! Which is very attractive for families whose kiddies have yet to develop the patience for a 14 hr flight in Economy Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 I would think the jetlag thing is big. It sure knocks me out for a few days either side on the UK<>Japan trip. Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 10 hours is about as long of a flight as you would want. 3 movies, a couple of bourbons and a little nap. Anything longer is a pain. (especially with little kids) Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 It's 9.5 to Tokyo from Syd. Longer if you're going from Melb. Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Yeah, but the time difference Syd - Tokyo is just 2 hours! Makes jetlag a total non-issue. Only problem is the lack of comfort for sleeping. And, there are no overnight direct flights on the way up. Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Qantas Perth-Narita is 10 hours. The bstards won't take unacompianied children but they charge full price for teenagers. One more year to wait before No1 son is 16 and able to travel. But the bitch will beat him down somehow. Link to post Share on other sites
journey_man 0 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Originally Posted By: soubs But the bitch will beat him down somehow. Do you mind if I organise some betting? Link to post Share on other sites
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