SnowJapan.Com#3 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 A new Backcountry Boardroom feature, "Avalanche Awareness", has been put online. http://www.snowjapan.com/e/features/boardroom-9.html "The 19th of February 2000 was not a good day to head into the backcountry of the Japan North Alps. A long spell of cold clear weather had given way to a relentless three day storm from the northwest - a storm straight from Siberia that continued to gather moisture from the Sea of Japan while dumping great amounts of snow in the bowls of the Hakuba Mountains. The ridges were swept clean by the high winds, thus consequently creating a very uneven depth of snow and pockets of unstable wind slab over the steep lee slopes. A faceted layer created by the previous long spell of cold and dry weather lay trapped deep in the loaded bowls and just beneath the surface and around rocks on the wind scoured ridges. Cornices were loaded and heavy. That day was a blue bird day with a light breeze and mild rising temperatures. Avalanche-prone slopes were in prime condition to slide as the day progressed; all they needed was a trigger." http://www.snowjapan.com/e/features/boardroom-9.html Please note that the views expressed in any Features on Snow Japan are not necessarily those of Snow Japan. (Mention this article on Snow Japan when you contact Evergreen to get a diiscount on avalanche equipment rental or sale.) Discuss it here..... Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Looking forward to the course dave. How is the snow pack now I woulf figure a little iffy cause of the new snow for over the last few days. Any known slides recently? Link to post Share on other sites
oo 1 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Excellent, very interesting. Were those guys that died living in Japan/locals or visiting? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 I think thats the New Zealand crew that died up there. It is an infamous story indeed. " title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" /> not to be taken as a joke smiley Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 This is not to critisize, but on the 2 or 3 times I have read av safety stuff I am always left trying to work out what the 'lee side' of the slope is. Is it the side that is protected from the wind? ie, wind from the west = east slope is the lee slope? Link to post Share on other sites
BigSausage 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 The story, real sad. The question, really don't know. The article, really good. I'm wondering how much the courses are...time to contact I think Link to post Share on other sites
rachael 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 I think I might need to become a bit better to be able to start contemplating that. Makes for a very interesting read though. Link to post Share on other sites
gammaman 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Very good (and sobering) article. For prices follow the link. 2 courses, basic 20,000y and the advanced 50,000y. My housemate informs me that your definition is correct. He is the font of all knowledge. I believe him. Link to post Share on other sites
IM 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Yes, Lee side is the protected side where more snow is accumulated = more powder = more possibility of unstable layer. The common sense, yes that would be the first thing for me. Sometimes I hear cracking sound of snow while we hike up, and that is the sign of stress somewhere in the snow. After all, even an extream experienced Kelly even gets caught in one. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 > Sometimes I hear cracking sound of snow while we hike up What would you do in that situation? Common sense would tell you of a risk there, but what would be sensible steps to take then? Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Sensible steps would be to look at what your hiking up and compare it with what your planning on going down. If the Whumping or cracking is on the slope your hiking/skiing up well then you should probably think twice about going down that same route and maybe finding a protected way down. Link to post Share on other sites
stumpalama 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 The "lee side" is the side away from the direction of the wind... It is where the snow that gets blown off the windward faces gets deposited on the leeward faces. This loads (overloads)the leeward faces with more snow before the natural snowfall has time to settle, and thus can cause unstable snow conditions and a higher risk of avalanches. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Leesides offer great powder at a high price. Most leasides are best skied in dense wooded areas. Do not ski a leaside wooded area that has an avie path above it, the slide will flow through the trees. Some great resort sking is on the leaside but it is controlled. If you hear Whomping you should think about heading back period. Link to post Share on other sites
oo 1 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Anyone here been on one of those courses? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Kicking horse, sunpeaks the gils, Cortina, Whitewater tons of resorts. Sking gullies in big mountains starting from half the way up can be deadly if you dont look up before you drop in. Link to post Share on other sites
JohnJohn 0 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 I'd really like to join in, what level do I need to be? Er ,I should be directing that to the guy himself right. er. bye Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Hope to see some of you on one of those courses. Link to post Share on other sites
sharkie 0 Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Just what I wanted. Good stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
rchuckrey 0 Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 There have been many more deaths in Japan than just those mentioned in the article. You can't stave off the BACKCOUNTRY HUNGER! Those boarders died doing something they loved so much and there's no shame there. ...now they board when they want to. Link to post Share on other sites
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