Fattwins 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 what do you think will jiminto grab more power? or could this be the change that japan needs? or is it a power grab chance? Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Koizumi has an agenda and is being thwarted by his own party, so he is taking it to the people. Bravo. As for the outcome, its conservatives vs reformers, so it will be interesting to see the result, Link to post Share on other sites
sava 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 it would take a lot of guys to call a snap election especially to 'clean' the liberal democratic party Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 it is much deeper than that. the ldp is wagamama. it thinks only of ways to keep itself in power. JA, JH, the post office and construction companies are its base. The ldp does not want to loose that base... but the pm issort of trying to adjust that way of gaining support. Link to post Share on other sites
oo 1 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Can anyone on here actually vote? Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by oo: Can anyone on here actually vote? You're being serious right? As if they'd let a gaijin vote... Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 FF, thought you stayed outta the politics crap? Link to post Share on other sites
Siren 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Quote: As if they'd let a gaijin vote... Isn't that the same in any country? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 its not that you are gaijin. Japan has a law that says you can vote only if you are japanese. Most people can become japanese if they want to. The problem is do yu want to give up that passort. I dont so i give up my right to vote. I still have an interest though in the politics of this country though. Link to post Share on other sites
Siren 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Yes, the right to vote comes with the citizenship (or 'permanent resident' in some countries), which is the usual arrangement. Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Yes you are right Siren but you would have to give up being a gaijin to vote! Is it really that easy to become Japanese? My wife will soon have the choice to become an aussie, though meaning that she must give up her nationality, thus she would become a gaijin in her own country.... Not a good move unless you are coming for some torturous country that you dearly want to escape from! Link to post Share on other sites
Siren 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 You are still a 'gaijin' even if you take Japanese citizenship (and can therefore vote). No? Link to post Share on other sites
woywoy 0 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 As long as you look anything apart from Japanese it seems you are deemed "Gaijin" in this country. On the politics issue, it seems that the PM is trying to be rather revolutionary in privatising the whole post office business (making it more "efficient" etc. is a strange concept in "unefficient" Japan) but he is being very old fashioned in the way he deals with his fellow party members, punishing them when they voted against him etc. etc. Rather contradictory, don't you think? The old and the new once again. Perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
Siren 0 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 I think he is showing signs of desperation because this is so important to him and he probably feels he is running out of time. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Does anybody know what the viable opposition plans to do about Iraq and 'missile defence cooperation'? Anything different from the current disastrous policies? Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 When's the election? He seems to get good press that big-hair guy in the UK papers. They say he wants real change and hes the guy to do it. Link to post Share on other sites
marnix 0 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Desperation is a good description of his situation. I think that in the beginning his only goal with the postal bill was to weaken opposing factions within the LDP and strengthen his position. The whole situation escalated and he felt he couldn't go back. Calling for elections might be the end to Koizumi-san political career and even a LDP/New Komeito majority. All this will also influence his possible visit to Yasukuni shrine tomorrow (Aug 15th). I guess he won't do it this time as there is too much at stake and his approval rating are up again (no need to create an international stir now). He probably will send someone else go to secure support from the conservative forces in coming election. Link to post Share on other sites
Siren 0 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Good guess. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 From the Independent ================ The decision to avoid the shrine has headed off another potentially damaging spat with China and South Korea, which nevertheless expressed anger at visits by several key members of the current cabinet, including LDP Acting Secretary General Shinzo Abe who is widely tipped to take over when Mr Koizumi retires next year. Asked why he went to the shrine, which abuts a museum that argues Japan's brutal wars in China and elsewhere were 'defensive', Mr Abe said: "I hope to convey to the world that Japan will uphold a free and democratic society and improve relations" with other countries. ================ Japan will improve relations with other countries by poking them in the eye with a pointed stick. That Mr Abe is one to watch. He's an uncommonly smooth right wing nut case. If he gets anywhere near power, Japan's relationship with China and Korea could get very warm indeed. Link to post Share on other sites
Siren 0 Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Now Horie is joining the fray, what do you think? The more I think about it, the more I have to admit that it is really a beautiful move. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I hold out greater hopes for Guv Tanaka of Nagano than Kid Horie... Link to post Share on other sites
Siren 0 Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I couldn't agree more. But Kid Horie learned from his mistake and knows how to chat up important allies and and how to do deals and, more importantly, has an instantly recognisable face. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 This reminds me of last time the LDP had a little melt-down and let in Maruyama as Prime Minister, but this time there appears to be a viable opposition, as well as some interesting, new-blood contenders like Horie. For the first time in decades, the situation appears pregnant with possibility. As for Horie, his brand is a little muddy now, and it's hard to discern what exactly he stands for, apart from money and fame for, well, Horie. I hope he takes a hint from the other opposition parties and produces one of these 'manifestos' that everybody talks about. I'd be very interested to see what it contains. Anyway I think, and fervently hope, that Koizumi is toast. I can't imagine that the business world will have much sympathy this time with a man who can't seem to fathom the importance of making a few little concessions to get on better with China. Link to post Share on other sites
Siren 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Not everyone is as well-informed as you are Ocean. And don’t under-estimate how easily politicians can get away with kissing a few babies and by shouting empty rhetoric. A lot of the younger people (i.e. people who are going nowhere or not satisfied with present conditions) want changes – for better or worse - and are not difficult to persuade you know. Anyone is better than the old guards they can’t do anything about and thus have no interest whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites
Yes-please. 0 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I've been away for a while and come back to this. Is Big Hair Man going to win?? Link to post Share on other sites
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