ug 0 Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 Can anyone tell me what its all about? They drug up the girls then attack them... as a university "group"?? ? Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan 0 Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 yeah, seen it on the news loads and I'm confused.....Can any Japanese users or speakers help us out Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Um, you don't have to speak Japanese. All you need is Google, the search string ["super free" japan], and you can find the basic information. You might try here first. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?fd20030629pb.htm Welcome to the world wide web... Link to post Share on other sites
IceEiji 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Not very helpful and sarcastic as usual. Perhaps these people wanting to know more than just what the basic newspaper saying about it. I don't know about it much myself but will try to post when I do. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 If you followed the helpful advice instead of whining at me, you'd find this article, conveniently at the top of the search results, that is full of information; http://www.weeklypost.com/030630/030630a.htm IceEiji, do you know the expression 'casting pearls before swine'? Hey everybody, just wait till Eiji has finished searching for ya. Just hang on now... Link to post Share on other sites
Goemon 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 IceEiji: I think a similar phrase might be "neko ni koban"? I can understand the frustration felt when people on an internet forum cannot do a simple search on the internet... Link to post Share on other sites
rachael 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 But someone coming to a forum might want more a "discussion" and ideas from people instead of just reading an article. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 rachael, that's true. But since the basic information is so easy to find using simple search techniques, in a forum you really have to hazard an opinion or a discussion starter. Just asking everybody else to supply you with reading materials is somewhat parasitic. That article in the Weekly Post (now there's a weird publication) is unusually detailed. It presents an aspect of Japanese society that I'm totally unaware of. I can't remember actually having met a university student here. I had the impression that the craving for prestige in Japanese society became somewhat unfashionable after the Bubble years, but it appears not. Sadly, gang rape in stairwells doesn't seem very prestigious behaviour... Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I read a bit about that in a book called Speed Tribes, which documents the shadow side of Japan, though there was nothing about rape. (The author probably wasn't aware). However it did go into some of the scams and the easy street life the students have and how inept they usually are (and these are the people who eventually run this country). Basically Waseda is the Uni everyone wants to get into cos it's the most prestigious. Many politicians and company presidents and other high ranking business people come from there. As a Waseda graduate you're automatically better than graduates from anywhere else and thus are eligible for high promotional posts, and will be the first that companies will want to employ. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 My American supervisor/management buffer at one the 'prestige' establishments I taught at was a (foreign, obviously) graduate of Waseda. Besides being an Uncle Tom gaijin, he was a complete moron. All he seemed to have learned from his intercultural education was never to stand with his hands in his pockets. Link to post Share on other sites
Stefan 0 Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Thanks , for the link. The story was a bit reactionary though wasn't it "Cruel crime cases are increasing in Japan. Have the Japanese people lost their desire for justice ?" Lets make some more sweeping generealisations and stir up a bit of a 'moral panic'. I suppose that's what happens if your first information source is the Web/ Newspapers or TV, without engaging peoples opinions first hand...... Anyway after a bit discussion with my colleagues, I'm fully updated. Link to post Share on other sites
jared 0 Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 I read a few other pieces on this too. Is anyone really surprised that this kind of thing goes on when there is so much legal porn depicting this sort of thing. I think they missed the point of censorship when they were deciding on the rules. Link to post Share on other sites
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