coldcat 0 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 In the resort page of SnowJapan for daisen uenohara (in Tottori) says that the maximun slope gradient in there is 45 degrees. Anybody who has been there and can confirm it? I went there several times last year cos it's near where I live, but I don't remember anything that steep. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 max could mean 1 meter as well Link to post Share on other sites
veronica 2 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 What page? This one? http://www.snowjapan.com/e/resorts/resortdetail.php?resid=668 It says 26. Link to post Share on other sites
coldcat 0 Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 Sorry. Not Uenohara. Nakano-hara. http://www.snowjapan.com/e/resorts/resortdetail.php?resid=667 Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted December 1, 2006 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2006 We have actually just started updating our resorts database yesterday. We will look into that coldcat right now... Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted December 1, 2006 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2006 OK it seems the steepest slope there is being listed by the resort Daisen as a whole as 27 degrees. Whether this is something that has changed or not I'm not sure but we will make sure this resort goes top of the list to update and update it as necessary. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
coldcat 0 Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 it was too good to be true. aagh. I wonder where in Japan is the steepest slope. Anyone knows? Link to post Share on other sites
YellowSnow 0 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Mount Fuji or one of the other volcanos. Link to post Share on other sites
coldcat 0 Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 I was actually asking about inbound runs, not back-country runs. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted December 1, 2006 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2006 The resort with the steepest - I think - is Kijimadaira in Nagano (between Nozawa and Shiga Kogen) that officially has a 45 degree slope. http://www.snowjapan.com/e/resorts/resortdetail.php?resid=42 http://www.snowjapan.com/e/maps/japan-ma...ijimadaira.html Link to post Share on other sites
coldcat 0 Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites
YellowSnow 0 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I dont even think you can go on mount fuji during the winter ( it is closed) but volcanos are often used in down hill speed tests e.g. cycling. So they have the gradient. Some of the smaller less well known resorts have 35+ but for me at least, when you hit that kind of gradient and anything happens, i.e. falling its a hell of a tough walk down. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted December 1, 2006 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted December 1, 2006 A few (er, not snowy) photos http://www.snowjapan.com/e/insider/resort_photo_gallery.php?resortNo=42 Someone take some Kijimadaira 45 degree slope photos this season please! Link to post Share on other sites
gerard 6 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Coldcat, I've been to Daisen a couple of times. The champion course is the most advanced area. The pitch itself wouldn't present any major problem for a high beginner but the course is not groomed and develops very strange, unevenly spaced moguls due to the mix of bad boarders, crappy skiers and lame ski-bladers. I recall seeing a couple of runs cut into a hillside adjacent to the main area that looked conspicuously steep but they were only about 90m long and the elevation was low so they never had adequate snow cover to be in use. Daisen is strangely the most popular destination for people from Kochi, even though there are MUCH better places to ski (like hachikita in Hyogo) about the same distance away. The only reason to go there would be if you live very close and you can catch it when it's dumping on a weekday when there are no crowds... or if you want to do a little back country stuff (the mountain is a little under 2000m and drops virtually right to the Sea of Japan but the ski hill is built on the foot of the mountain.) If you're in Okayama, go to Hyogo or beyond. Even Geihoku in Hiroshima is better than Daisen. Actually, in western Japan I really like Hachikita. I've been there many times and the people are really friendly, the snow is pretty good, and the mountain has a surprising amount of fun terrain. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 " unevenly spaced moguls due to the mix of bad boarders, crappy skiers and lame ski-bladers. " yeah, especially those ski-bladers. Link to post Share on other sites
gamera 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 A 45 steep hill must look like a cliff.... Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Mizuho is another option if going out this way. Better than Geihoku in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
coldcat 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Author Share Posted December 2, 2006 I like mizuho. I've never been to hyogo but i've heard is good too. Daisen is quite alright for me since I'm really close. Much closer than Mizuho or hyogo. I think daisen is fun, not really steep or anything but it's not as bad as Ger says. That's my opinion anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
gerard 6 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 You've been here a while eh BP? Is there anything as good as Hachikita/Hachikogen this side of Kansai? I haven't found anything yet. I'll check out Mizuho sometime. Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 yeah I've been here a while ger, but have never been to any places in or near kansai. The furthest east in this area I have been is a place in Okayama that used to be called Hanamiyama or Takamiyama. Sorry it was a long time ago and can't remember the name! So I can't really compare to anything in Hyogo. I would assume that the resorts out that way are bigger but I don't really have any basis for saying that. Mizuho is by far my favourite of anything in the Chugoku region. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Kijimadaira. Must try that place sometime..... Link to post Share on other sites
coldcat 0 Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 There's already quite a lot of snow on the top. Link to post Share on other sites
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