Ezorisu 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Zoiks! Shaggy, Scooby and the gang were headed to Kiroro out of Otaru, and somewhere around the 12 or 13 kilometer marker, there was a spooky lift station looming in the fog on a hill to the left of the highway. It still seemed to be painted and hadn't turned to rust, although there were no chairs on the cable. It looked like an older, "low-speed"-type lift (as opposed to a H/S quad that has a larger top station structure for all the fiddly bits). Anybody know what gelande this lift belongs to? Link to post Share on other sites
number9 0 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Maybe it was a small town operated ski-jo that opened during the ski boom (bubble) but had to close down with the decreasing number of visitors during the recession. There's hundreds of those around Japan, right? Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 but had to close down If the list was still there perhaps it hasn't "closed down", just "taking a break" Link to post Share on other sites
Ezorisu 0 Posted March 2, 2006 Author Share Posted March 2, 2006 Guess I'll have to look at a topo or something... It'd be nice to find out where the other end is and go ride the closed runs when nobody is looking! BTW: someone built a nice kicker next to the road that junctions the Otaru-Kiroro highway right below the Otaru Wine factory. It's on the uphill side a little less than a kilometer down toward the school. Nobody was sessioning it when I drove past either way. Link to post Share on other sites
joshnii 2 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 I've seen a fair few ghost lifts hanging around - but most of them look old and decrepid. Link to post Share on other sites
Ezorisu 0 Posted March 3, 2006 Author Share Posted March 3, 2006 Is that like a "Japan" thing? I've seen dead, out-of-service lifts at Niseko Hirafu and Sahoro. I can understand ghost lifts remaining at a closed resort, but you'd figure they'd dismantle unused or superceded lifts at active resorts. I've been to Whistler-Blackcomb, Sunshine Village, and Lake Louise in Canada, and I don't remember seeing any ghost lifts... Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 In Canada there are environmental laws about that sort of thing Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Also the ski boom in Canada ended in like the 60s so most of the piddly hills have long since closed up with the lifts being removed In Japan a lot of the piddly hills have just started to close down in the last 10 years or so. But is Japan really known for cleaning up things like that? Take a walk up Fuji and you'll find a ton of old buildings falling down Link to post Share on other sites
0151 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I think the reason they are not taken down is probably that basically it costs money. Link to post Share on other sites
veronica 2 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Toque out of interest during that ski boom in Canada were the slopes unbearably busy or just relatively more than now? Link to post Share on other sites
number9 0 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Wow, Toque must be quite old Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 He looks much younger on his lovely avatar. Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I prefer his previous avatar (didn't he used to be wearing a helmet?) Link to post Share on other sites
Zaoman 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Seen a few around Yamagata as well. They look sad. It seems they do keep them up there and leave to rot rather than take them down. Link to post Share on other sites
Ezorisu 0 Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 It seems really weird to see them at a working resort. Link to post Share on other sites
minus 1 Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Some of these lifts are probably just lifts that they are "resting". Translated as "not enough guests to justify them moving". Link to post Share on other sites
Ezorisu 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 Finally got around to looking over some topos and discovered that the particular lift in question in my original post is the "Purple" course lift at Asari (Asarigawa-onsen ski area). Haven't ever ridden there. I'm guessing it is a functioning lift, but it just wasn't running when I passed by. Link to post Share on other sites
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