muikabochi 208 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Always a day I dislike today the annual tax stuff came. The last few years it seemed to get more and more expensive - while my income didn't rise as fast - but this year just a slight increase here. Still a ton of cash I have to hand over. Why can't they send it out on a Monday, not a Friday! Link to post Share on other sites
Curt 1 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 They do it so you can cool off for the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 The one lump definitely hits harder than the constant trickle. And before the weekend....dastardly!! Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Rich 78 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Is this the city tax? I know we all have to pay tax, etc, but I'd like to know what the hell I'm paying for and how my bill's calculated, as all the bumpff is in Japanese!! My fault for not understanding the lingo I know but bloody frustrating nonetheless! Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I don't particularly like it either, but considering it's less than half of what I paid in Canada I won't complain too much Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 2 lots. 1 great big chunk for town/city tax or whatever they call it. The other great big chunk for health. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I don't particularly like it either, but considering it's less than half of what I paid in Canada I won't complain too much I reckon we would pay much much more in the UK, at least double. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Damn taxes. Damn you all to hell! Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 I don't particularly like it either, but considering it's less than half of what I paid in Canada I won't complain too much I reckon we would pay much much more in the UK, at least double. The last time I paid taxes in Canada it was 26% of my income (and I was in the second lowest tax bracket). Here, for the same salary, it is roughly 10%. Also, in Ontario the harmonized sales tax (new tax structure) is now between 13-30% depending on what you are buying. In Japan it's only 5%. It sucks paying taxes but we really don't pay all that much here. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 My town/city + health taxes together probably comes to around 15% of my total income. Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 15%?! No way am I moving to Niigata now then. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Is that not much then? I think my point was - it's never nice for a great big chunk of a bill to land on your doorstep! Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 15% is tiny - one of my buddies in Kamakura, Kanagawa pays about 25% out of his income on taxes. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted June 17, 2012 Author Share Posted June 17, 2012 Well, I still pay income tax which comes to about 10% so add those up and you get 25% hey. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 My city tax has actually went down this year, even although my salary last year was the same as the previous year. My mrs reckons its cos I fiddled .... done my income tax myself this year. I managed to claim a lot of tax back and was very happy with the low amount of income tax I had to pay. This year I'm aiming for even less. Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 25% tax is still pretty damned low. Plenty of us can only dream of such a low tax rate. I guess it's one of the reasons that Japan is so far in debt. They just aren't collecting enough tax. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Tubby Its a pain to do it, but you get bigger tax free allowances if you file with the blue form. See if you can get your missus to do it for you. The local chamber of commerce (shoukoukai) may offer help on how to fill it in. They do round here. When I started off freelance and was single, I just went to the tax office with a basic excel printout and a few envelopes full of receipts and did the white form. I thought I was doing well, but in hindsight I was actually paying much more tax than an organised person would have. GN That's it in a nutshell really. The main one to push through is the consumption tax because everyone pays that one, cash in hand folks, farmers, the self employed, rich old folks, etc. etc. Even at 5%, the consumption tax collects as much revenue as the income tax. At 5% you cannot have a welfare state in an ageing society. You just can't afford it. Conversely the corporation tax should be slashed from 42% to a level where running a company ceases to be an exercise in avoiding profit. I think its definitely a case where a tax rate cut would increase revenue, not decrease it. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Mr W, duly noted Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbird2 0 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Mine came last week too. This year going to pay it off bit by bit because I want to send a chunk of money home with the exchange rates still good at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbird2 0 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Decided to pay it off and forget. Phew. Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Got my tax a couple of weeks back. Safe to say, my balls shrank and my wallet creaked. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 ouch! Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Rich 78 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Have just paid nearly 40K (Yen, not $, £, Shekels or camels) on city tax and medical insurance! Could have bought (and was planning to buy) a new snowboard with that!! Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 40000 yen? For a year?!? a month, right? Link to post Share on other sites
Mick Rich 78 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 The city tax is bi-monthly and the med insurance monthly - this was the first joint payment of the new tax year! Link to post Share on other sites
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