Emigration to Australia

[js 0]

If you're in IT and like the snow, and being a pom preference the cool (cool in Oz is 28 Celsius or below) then I suggest you go to Melbourne or Tasmania (Tassie has lousy snowfields so you'd have to fly to Melbourne anyway).

 

If in cosmopolitan Melbourne, then Adelaide is only several hours drive away = some of the best wine regions in the country = great idea for a long-weekend trip.

 

Reminds me of a bumper sticker:

 

Thinking of Emmigrating To Australia?

F*ck-off, we're full!

 

... a skilled pommie?? That's a rare one!

[bobby12 0]

Try telling that to the Oz government, they practically carrying people over on their shoulders! I was reading one story about one UK plumber who was 48, too old to pass visa test, but Adelaide City saw his visa application and cos they needed plumbers they sponsored him and put him up in a flat for a few months for free to get him settled!

 

I will look into Tasmania, I just assumed it was too small without really checking it out.

[HelperElfMissy 42]

Tassie is small, but beautiful.

 

WA has a 600 teacher shortage for the start of the school year this year. Anyone who wants to teach in the government school system would get a job in a heartbeat. Only problem is MOST of those 600 Vacancies will be remote. We employ a few temporary staff on holiday from the UK - they will be sorely missed when they have to go.

[indosnm 0]

My bro moved over to SA fresh outta trade school and rakes 3-4k a week.. Pity teachers can't do that.. no wander there is a shortage.

[spook 0]

 Originally Posted By: Mamabear

Tassie is small, but beautiful.

WA has a 600 teacher shortage for the start of the school year this year. Anyone who wants to teach in the government school system would get a job in a heartbeat. Only problem is MOST of those 600 Vacancies will be remote. We employ a few temporary staff on holiday from the UK - they will be sorely missed when they have to go.

what business do you run mamabear?

 Originally Posted By: Indo

My bro moved over to SA fresh outta trade school and rakes 3-4k a week.. Pity teachers can't do that.. no wander there is a shortage.

man, so often i think i'd have been better off doing a trade than going to uni... the amount of cabbage some tradies are pulling in at the moment is ridiculous

[indosnm 0]

Bloody oath.. might start my apprenticeship!

[HelperElfMissy 42]

 Originally Posted By: spook

what business do you run mamabear?

We own a fruit and vegetable wholesale company.
But I leave the carrots and onions to Papabear and work as a Deaf Sign Language Interpreter....I get to talk in 2 languages at once - gotta love that! My mother always said I was vaccinated with a gramophone needle.

Tradies are raking it in atm - one brother is a roofie/builder and doing really well, the other is a mechanic specialising in boat engines. Me? I went to Uni got a degree in Psychology, an acceditation in Interpreting and earn less than both of them!

[Go Native 70]

Melbourne really isn't very cold. The lowest temp (recorded in the 1800's) was only -3. Most days in winter get above 10 degrees. That really isn't what I would consider cold, especially after spending a few years in Hokkaido...

[NoFakie 45]

If you go to any Anglo country, seriously consider renting for a while. It seems like a very bad time to be a first-time buyer.

[spook 0]

 Originally Posted By: Mamabear

 Originally Posted By: spook

what business do you run mamabear?

We own a fruit and vegetable wholesale company.
But I leave the carrots and onions to Papabear and work as a Deaf Sign Language Interpreter....I get to talk in 2 languages at once - gotta love that! My mother always said I was vaccinated with a gramophone needle.

apologies for taking this thread off topic, but mamabear is sounding more and more interesting:

she runs a fruit and veg company
is a deaf sign language interpreter (is this the same as Auslan?)
and is a moderator on a year round xmas website
anything else wr should know about?

[Mantas 3]

 Originally Posted By: spook

man, so often i think i'd have been better off doing a trade than going to uni... the amount of cabbage some tradies are pulling in at the moment is ridiculous

That's because it's BLOODY HARD WORK. Ten years ago when the internet was starting to flourish, every pin head comming out of school wanted to get a job sitting on their arse in air conditioned comfort, with product in their hair and doodle on a computer.

So who's left to do the real work???

[HelperElfMissy 42]

 Originally Posted By: spook

apologies for taking this thread off topic, but mamabear is sounding more and more interesting:

she runs a fruit and veg company
is a deaf sign language interpreter (is this the same as Auslan?)
and is a moderator on a year round xmas website
anything else wr should know about?

LOL
I am not THAT interesting.

I don't do any hands on in the fruit and veg business nowadays, and even in the early years I only did data entry stuff. I wouldn't know a good carrot from a bad one which is why I don't buy any - Hubby brings them all home.

Yes Auslan is Australian Deaf Sign Language. I am an accredited Auslan Interpreter, but I can also interpret (somewhat) for international visitors using ASL (American Sign Language), BSL (Bristish Sign Language) and have a good crack at many others - I used to have a Malaysian client, and a Polish client. I have done this for a job since 1989.

I love Christmas but was never organised enough to enjoy it, so I joined Organised Christmas dot com message boards to get some organization going on .... it closed just a few days ago due to owner retirement and a group of Moderators including me have kept the legacy going with a new message board.

Not really much else to know guys - except that I am a NEWBIE on snow. My very first sight of snow was in April, and we are now ADDICTED as a family.

And despite LOVING Japan, and LOVING the beauty, snow and welcome in Hokkaido - I still call Australia home...and while appreciating the shopping of Melbourne, the cosmopolitan feel of Sydney, and the peace of Tassie....PERTH is where I will always live.

\Hijack over - back to Emigration talk!!

[Mantas 3]

Bobby12- what are you looking for in so far as lifestyle? What are your hobbies and interests? what would you like to get into?

Regional Australia, while not offering a lot of career oportunities, offers a fantastic lifestyle. When the weekend comes around we are spoilt for choice, surfing, fishing, diving, sailing, boating with the kids, sport....ect. All done without the hassle of city living. Do you really need to live in a city? Some companies are offering great incentives to work in regional areas.

[bobby12 0]

Yeh on the weekend I am definately into doing outdoorsey stuff - going for a walk, park, skiing/scuba diving if it's available. But normally I live in places where there is not much to do apart from socialise or go shopping. So I am into the idea of living rurally, however we also like 'cafe society' and are attracted to the city because its easier to find like minded people (e.g. people who've lived in Japan etc). I also play squash and go the gym though I guess most rural areas have that.

 

Ideal solution for us I think is a small city like Adelaide or Matsumoto was (matsumoto is much smaller than adelaide but it was big enough for me at the time), that has easy access to nature and with a reasonably cosmopolitan atmosphere for its size.

[snobee 0]

Bobby - all things considered - you'd probably really like Adelaide.

 

No snow - but very pleasant city, much on offer but without the clamour of the bigger places. By the same token 1.2million live there so it's not the backwater East-siders often try to portray as.

 

Indo - what does your bros do as a first year tradesman to earn A$200,000 a year? And where does he work? Gotta have a whiff of that.

[indosnm 0]

Snobee.. he's been putting in the water purifiers for a co I won't mention and making a killing..

Then all the jobs for other people etc which is becoming pretty busy.

Makes my once good salary here look like a pittance!

[me jane 0]

Interesting thread this.

Me Tarzan and I have also discussed Australia (10 years or so down the road). He loves the water and hot weather so it would be perfect for him. I quite like the idea of Canada but if if I'm getting to live in a "Western-culture", English speaking country then we need some kind of compromise. Australia seems like it would have something that suits us both.

The things that put me off are 1. that it's so far from the UK for visiting family and stuff and 2. the monster insects. I love hiking and the mountains and the one time I went in Austalia, we were woken up by screams in the middle of the night because someone in our group had found a huge spider in their tent!

[Mantas 3]

 Originally Posted By: me jane

we were woken up by screams in the middle of the night because someone in our group had found a huge spider in their tent!

You'll get used to that. most spiders and insects are harmless.

[nzlegend 1]

 Originally Posted By: SubZero

(Tassie has lousy snowfields so you'd have to fly to Melbourne anyway).

if you are going to fly, why not fly three hours to some real mtns


In regards to emigrating, you should get hold of miteyak and ask for his advice, he must have been in Oz for 2-3 years now.

[HelperElfMissy 42]

Im a daughter of a UK defector - so many of his relatives (therefore mine) are still in the UK. We seem to be the host families for most of the young'uns doing thier gap year tour of Australia - and ALWAYS one of the first questions we get when we get here is "Can you show my what a redback spider looks like and how I can avoid it!"

 

Funny! I am 38 yrs old and while I have seen plenty of them, and exterminated a small army of them - I have never been bitten. A girlfriend was bitten once, and my hubby has been bitten a few times - but no disasterous consequences. Most of the nasty poisenous things stay out of your way - and as long as you know what NOT to disturb you should be OK.

 

I was a bit fastidious about spraying and clearing webs from all the hidieholes in the yard when my kids were at the 'stick my finger into it' stage though!

 

As far as distance from the UK - yup - it's a hike, but if it is a plane flight from Japan or Canada, and a plane flight from Aus - doesn't really matter that the flight is a couple of hours longer...

[Mantas 3]

Distance is an issue for sure. My wife's family are all in the UK. We have a good laugh at all there antics when they come out. Things we don't even notice are a big deal to them. Insects, spiders, swimming in places that don't have concrete bottom.....

 

Australia is not for everyone, a lot of people are dissatisfied with what they find down here, it lacks a lot of things, but none of those things interest me anyway.

 

Anyone coming from the UK certainly shouldn't expect to find a slice of the Empire under the sun. You may laugh at that, but that is some people's attitude. Hence the term 'whinging Pomm'

[muikabochi 208]

I'm interested in the "it lacks a lot of things" comment, Mantas - like what?

[bushpig 0]

Good whale-sushi restaurants for one

[me jane 0]

 Originally Posted By: muikabochi

I'm interested in the "it lacks a lot of things" comment, Mantas - like what?

I'd be interested too.

Just my opinion but I imagine with a population smaller than greater Tokyo there are a lack of facilities. For example it can't be financially viable for all hospitals to carry all the latest state-of-the-art diagnostic equipment for every possible medical condition.

Also, while I think the laid back attitude to work is basically a good thing but it might be frustrating if you are on the receiving end and used to the way things are done in Japan.

[spook 0]

not sure eactly what mantas is getting at, but things i think things that are lacking here are efficient public transport (lack of population density means waiting for trains and buses is a right inconvinience) and convinient shopping hours

 

not sure about the laidback attitude to work me jane. i found that in japan i worked long hours, but often doing nothing in particular, simply because that is the japanese way. and in the uk i found the work ethic to be incredibly slack. from my experience in oz people generally work harder. council workers and public servants are the exception to this rule, but they seem to be slackers anywhere you go in the world.