Plucky 0 Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 Army asks ski resorts to return its howitzers Tuesday, April 27, 2004 Posted: 7:17 PM EDT (2317 RENO, Nevada (AP) -- The U.S. military is demanding the return of five howitzers that two Sierra Nevada ski resorts use to prevent avalanches, saying it needs the guns for the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Alpine Meadows and Mammoth Mountain received the artillery pieces on loan from the Army and began using them last year to fire rounds into mountainsides and knock snow loose. But the ski resorts received word earlier this month that the Army's Tank Automotive and Armaments Command at the Rock Island Arsenal in Illinois needs the howitzers back. "I need to have them back in the troops' hands within 60 to 90 days," said Don Bowen, the Army command's team leader in charge of the howitzers. "It's a very short timeframe to get them serviceable and back into the theater in southwest Asia. Afghanistan-Iraq is the immediate concern." The ski resorts said they will comply. "Given it's a war effort, their needs are greater than ours," said Larry Heywood, Alpine Meadows director of mountain operations. Howitzers are short-barreled cannons that typically are pulled by a vehicle. They fire three to 10 rounds a minute at a range of about five to 10 miles. Replacing a 119-A -- the type used at the resorts -- would cost around $1 million, Bowen said Tuesday. The military lent two to Alpine Meadows and three to Mammoth Mountain. A gun doubling as a safety tool Alpine Meadows and Mammoth Mountain are the only ski resorts in the nation using the 119-A howitzer, the most modern model available, said Bob Moore, a U.S. Forest Service specialist in Truckee, Calif. Other resorts have older 105 mm howitzers. Pam Murphy, senior vice president at Mammoth Mountain just east of Yosemite National Park, said the military has provided the ski resort with recoilless rifles and other guns for avalanche control for 30 years. The howitzers are the most effective, Murphy said. "It was designed to kill people, but it's a very valuable safety tool for us," said Rachael Woods, a spokeswoman at Lake Tahoe's Alpine Meadows, where seven people were killed in an avalanche in 1982. Resort officials said they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to transport the guns, reimburse the Army for training and build firing platforms. But Murphy said she understood the Army's decision: "We're certainly at a different place in the world than when we first got the guns." The Forest Service said it is working to secure older howitzers for the ski resorts, and the Army's Bowen said he is optimistic that will happen. Story Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 That seems really stupid. You would think that an army like the US would be able find 5 big guns somewhere else. Not related but in Rogers Pass in BC the army does the actual blasting. It's great practice for them. The avy techs tell them where to fire and then they go at it. Link to post Share on other sites
Plucky 0 Posted April 29, 2004 Author Share Posted April 29, 2004 That's pretty much what I was thinking too Toque. 5 freaking guns?!? I guess the taxpayer dollars are being better spent on duck hunting trips in air force 2 for Cheney and his buddies. That would be cool if they would implement the same kind of tactics in the states. Makes good sense. Two birds with one stone and all that hubub. You skiing anywhere this weeekend? Hakkoda again for me - as long as it doesn't rain. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 That says more about the state of how far the army is strecthed. Could be an election ploy too. It makes Bush look stupid in California a key state with many votes. Link to post Share on other sites
CheeseRipper 0 Posted April 29, 2004 Share Posted April 29, 2004 Maybe Cheney and his buddies had to use them for duck hunting? I'm sure you could shoot a whole bunch of ducks with those big mommas! Link to post Share on other sites
69 5 Posted May 14, 2004 Share Posted May 14, 2004 Fattwins-san....not sure he needs much help! Link to post Share on other sites
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