Victor 0 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Hi I was wondering if anyone had some good resorts that they would recommend in western Japan. I've been to 2 places in Tottori, Hyonosen and Daisen, and I've also been to Hachi Kita in Hyogo ken. Are there any other worth while resort to check out in the region? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Not that I know of hachi is the best around there I think. Link to post Share on other sites
connackers 0 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Mizuho in Shimane has some more challenging runs than Daisen, so is worth a visit. There are also a few smaller places in Hiroshima but i haven`t been. What are Hyonsen and Hachi Kita like? - never heard of them. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 hachi and hachi kita came together a few years ago and are now a very big resort best skiing in kansai. Link to post Share on other sites
DrMabuse 0 Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 Where are we thinking "western" starts? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 i think as far as hyogo at the moment for the boys asking the questions. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 Hiroshima: Osorakan has the best snow in Hiroshima, Geihokukokusai is ok, a few good runs, but too many lame ass boarders in the way, Hiroshima use to be like 85% boarders who are really bad. This isnt a skier vs. boarder thing its just thats pretty close to what the numbers are. Turn it around and Id bitch at all the shitty skiers too. Shimane: Mizuho is good fun, some kickers, tables, half pipe (which sucked last year although it was greatly improved) Totori: Daisen Link to post Share on other sites
connackers 0 Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 How do Osorakan and Hachi compare to Daisen and Mizuho? Found Daisen and Mizuho pretty similar in quality - Mizuho had more difficult runs and a better park but Daisen was a little bigger and set up a lot better. Both good fun for a day but, but probably would get bored of them for much more than that. Are Osorakan and Hachi similar? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Hachi is like 5 times bigger thats the diference. the hachi web site can be linked through here check it out. Link to post Share on other sites
snobee 0 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Haven't been to the "New Hachi" but looks like they've done some good merging and developments and seemed to be heavily marketed last season in these parts.(west) From my humble observations (and experiences)over the past 5-6 seasons, Mizuho appears to more consistently get the goods than any other of the main western resorts. I figure it's one of natures strange little anomalies - location, location, location - nearby resorts Tenguston, Geihoku ..... often recieve much lighter, wetter, falls. Mizuho top of the mountain, got a 170cm dump last season in one day - the valley floor got 80cm. Match all of that with pretty good snowmaking coverage, means you generally won't be dissappointed after an expensive trek at Mizuho. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 connackers, Yup, unfortunately theyre pretty similar and anything you go to in W. Japan is crazy crowded on weekends - 40 min queues are not uncommon at place like Saito, Geihoku Kokusai. I went a few times to Yahata 191 just outside of Geihoku and had a blast there not to mention a few days of nice snow too. (meaning it wasnt artifical) Id say Mizuho is my fav. in W. Japan. Osorakan is great but getting there is a pain in the ass and it usually closes pretty early but that does give ya time for an onsen. The road to Osorakan is narrow And cuz it ices over we usually left there between 3-5, usually about 3 just to beat traffic and avoid slippin off da road. But, Osorakan has the best snow and use to be skiers only resort too... Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 170cms in one day? thats pretty big not even hakuba gets that much in one day. hachi really made a dew good kickers from what I heard and the rail park was good also but again hear say Link to post Share on other sites
connackers 0 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 I`d heard about the crazy queueing times but didn`t find Daisen too bad especially in January. Liked Mizuho a lot except that it seemed like it could be set up better. Only having one canteen at the bottom is ridiculous, especially as it is so overcrowded and overpriced - don`t go back down for lunch! Also unless you have your own transport you have NO chance of getting a locker if you arrive past 9am. And I really don`t like the way that in so many resorts it`s difficult to get your own stuff serviced, though Daisen is good for this. Mizuho only having one run back down also means that it gets REALLY crowded at lunch and at the end of the day. But there are definitely some very nice runs there. Any more info on that other Tottori place Yuki, or is it still secret? Link to post Share on other sites
Victor 0 Posted October 9, 2004 Author Share Posted October 9, 2004 The only other place in tottori is Hyonosen. It is fairly small but good for half a day if you are craving some boarding action. I definitley wouldn't make a long journey there. Thanks for all the help. I went to daisen about 6 times last year and had fun everytime. I'm definitely going to consider Mizoho for this winter. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Hmmmmmmm - honestly, have to check with my mates since they made me swear not to tell - or itd be Batsu game for me Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Yuki considering you wont ski there again and neither will most of us... Give the poor bastards a hand they get the worst of the resorts down there already. Link to post Share on other sites
connackers 0 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Cheers Fattwins Victor where are you based? Went up to Daisen 6 or so times last season also - always had a good time. I`d heard a lot of negative stuff about it especially from my japanese teachers but found it really good considering it`s not that big. Nice snow, quick lift up to the top, not too crowded and good cheap food. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 I figure yuki has gone home he gets off early on thursdays. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 check here for maps usally real overhead pics http://www.j-ski.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
snobee 0 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 Fattw - I stand corrected. Just did a search of "western Dump" in March, and noticed that the dump was 120cm not 170cm. I knew it was damn big, but I guess my over exuberant anticipation of the coming season has me looking thru rose coloured goggles. Or my brain IS getting shaky. Anwayz it's a good reminder that way out west all is not lost. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted October 9, 2004 Share Posted October 9, 2004 The biggest Ive seen in a storm here is 200 cms over 3 days. No worries those types of storms set the bases for the season Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 Fattwins, Mate, I get off early everyday!!!!!!!!! I would but my friends go out there still - season hasnt started yet so theres time Link to post Share on other sites
Victor 0 Posted October 16, 2004 Author Share Posted October 16, 2004 Connakers, I'm based in Tottori Ken. I'm about 2 hours away from Daisen but its definitely worth the drive to Daisen. I agree with you, I went about 7 or 8 times last year and everytime I had an awesome time. Let me know the next time you are there. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 victor, two hours from Daisen in Tottori? I have to go up to Yonago and Matsue quite a bit. What city are you in??? Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 my bad for hijacking this thread - just wanted to see what this avatar would look like... Link to post Share on other sites
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