lin 0 Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 I am going to be skiing for my first time soon in Japan, and have been reading many posts here with great interest. Sorry for the (what-may-be-silly) question, but...... Can anyone tell me how moguls/"kobu" are formed? Just natural or do the resorts "do something" to make those huge bumps? Many thanks Lin Singapore Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 moguls are generally created naturally... they are formed from the spray of the snow created by turning... there are also machine made mogul fields too...kind of common on the east coast in the US...but many times they turn out kind of awkward... danz Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 Depending on your definition of 'naturally' of course... Link to post Share on other sites
lin 0 Posted December 26, 2001 Author Share Posted December 26, 2001 I mean do they just form because of the actions of skiers, or are they "man-made" as in some preparation is needed. Thanks for the responses! Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 Normally just loads of skiers following the same line, isn't it ? Cutting at the bits where they ski and spraying onto the bits where they don't which then harden to form bumps. In a program I saw about "mogul pixie" Aiko Uemura, they showed a 30 degree plus competition mogul course being built with the assistance of the shovel-wielding SDF (the Japanese Army) since they couldn't get them big enough by repeated skiing alone. Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 0 Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Greetings fellow Singaporean. Moguls tend to form on steeper slopes by skiers making frequent turns instead of gunning down the fall line. The natural rhythm of mogul skiing only serves to further cut tracks in the snow. PS: Have you been to snow city? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 snow city???? Link to post Share on other sites
lin 0 Posted December 27, 2001 Author Share Posted December 27, 2001 So does that mean that the first person who goes down a potential mogul run is going down ungroomed deep snow?? Link to post Share on other sites
helen 0 Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I always thought they were formed naturally as people ski down the mountain. Machine made mogul fields. Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 0 Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Quote: Originally posted by lin: So does that mean that the first person who goes down a potential mogul run is going down ungroomed deep snow?? Not necessarily. The snow could be groomed, but of sufficient depth to lay tracks. When it snows again, skiiers would just cut new tracks into the existing grooves. Whatever gets sprayed just piles up on the sides, forming the bumps you see. You'll normally find half a slope left ungroomed for bump skiing. Link to post Share on other sites
Kelvin 0 Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Quote: Originally posted by htor: snow city???? Its a little indoor ski slope in Singapore. Link to post Share on other sites
Wade 0 Posted December 28, 2001 Share Posted December 28, 2001 My first time on snow was in Tokyo's indoor place in '95. Imagine my surprise six months later in Hokkaido! Link to post Share on other sites
lin 0 Posted December 28, 2001 Author Share Posted December 28, 2001 Thanks everyone. Interesting stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted December 29, 2001 Share Posted December 29, 2001 So how do they become so pretty and shapely? (Honestly wanting to know?!) Link to post Share on other sites
barok 0 Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 you're all wrong moguls are made by willy wancker in his mogul factory. he has all of these little people working for him. they are called bumpa lumpas. if you visit the factory asking questions, they will break into a song for you. as a snowboarders i hate willy wancker and his bumpa lumpas, although i do like their rarest most upscale product, the elusive powder mogul. [This message has been edited by barok (edited 30 December 2001).] Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 Nothin' better than getting down to the bottom of a nasty bumpy slope and discovering that as compensation, you decapitated or otherwise squished a coupla bumpa lumpas on the way down. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 2, 2002 Share Posted February 2, 2002 But before the skiers go down the slope and make it, isn't there some machine of something that makes them? And are there any artificial "bumps" on the ground put down before the snow starts to fall? Link to post Share on other sites
el diablo 0 Posted February 2, 2002 Share Posted February 2, 2002 no senor, no machine or artificial bumps. the only help a run will get to create moguls is from the resort's ski instructors, ski patrollers, employees gathering together, and hitting the same run over and over, all turning in the same spots, same lines, over and over for a few hours, carving out the moguls. also no grooming, as mentioned before. you could keeel moguls with a snowcat, but you can also let them live without one. Link to post Share on other sites
wang 0 Posted May 3, 2002 Share Posted May 3, 2002 Old topic, sorry, but how can the moguls turn out to be so "regular" looking? Link to post Share on other sites
1 4 Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Most people taking the same route down maybe. Link to post Share on other sites
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