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Images coming in from Man Utd  

Breaking News!   Apparently, Robin Van Persie has failed a medical at Manchester United. He has a severely damaged back after carrying a full squad last season.

Yey.   Beer and snacks ready  

Poor Ronaldo.

 

He's sad.

 

Hopefully he might be able to cheer up soon.

 

Real Madrid are preparing to offer Cristiano Ronaldo an olive branch when he returns to the club from international duty this week.

 

The Spanish champions are contemplating issuing a joint statement that will be endorsed by both the club's president Florentino Perez and the player himself and will make clear Real's commitment to eventually extend his contract beyond 2015 and give full support to his candidacy for this year's Fifa Golden Ball.

The club have decided it serves no purpose to be at odds with their best player, at least while the transfer market remains closed, and have moved to address his two primary complaints – the failure to extend his current deal, which expires in 2015, and a perceived lack of support towards him in his attempts to win football's top individual prizes.

As well as bad feeling caused by him entering his fourth season at the club still with his original deal in place, Ronaldo was unhappy that a relatively low-level club director (Pedro Lopez, a trusted friend of president Florentino Perez) was sent with him to Monaco for the presentation of Europe's player of the year award, while Barcelona stars Leo Messi and Andres Iniesta were accompanied by the Barça president Sandro Rosell.

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A damning report into the Hillsborough disaster has laid bare a shocking cover-up which attempted to shift the blame for the tragedy on to its victims.

The families of the 96 Liverpool fans killed 23 years ago said on Wednesday that the report had vindicated them but pledged to carry on their fight by pursuing criminal prosecutions against those who they said should "hang their heads in shame".

Prime Minister David Cameron led a chorus of apologies - including from former Sun editor Kelvin MacKenzie, current Sun editor Dominic Mohan and the South Yorkshire Police (SYP) Chief Constable - and said Attorney General Dominic Grieve will review the report as quickly as possible in order to decide whether to apply to the High Court to quash the original, flawed inquest and order a new one.

The Liverpool supporters died in a crush at Sheffield Wednesday's Hillsborough stadium on April 15, 1989 - where their team were to meet Nottingham Forest in an FA Cup semi-final.

Introducing the report to the Hillsborough families at the Anglican Cathedral in Liverpool, Bishop James Jones, the Bishop of Liverpool and chairman of the panel, said: "The documents disclosed to and analysed by the panel show that the tragedy should never have happened.

"There were clear operational failures in response to the disaster and in its aftermath there were strenuous attempts to deflect the blame onto the fans. The panel's detailed report shows how vulnerable victims, survivors and their families are when transparency and accountability are compromised."

The panel's report found:

There were clear operational failures in response to the disaster and up to 41 fans could potentially have survived.

The then chief constable of South Yorkshire Peter Wright and his officers, with the help of local Tory MP Irvine Patnick, sought to cover up the failings, briefing media that drunken, ticketless fans and violence were to blame.

There was "no evidence fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium" and "no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying".

Police "doctored" 116 official statements "to remove or alter comments unfavourable to SYP".

South Yorkshire Ambulance Service documents were "subject to the same process".

An attempt was made to "impugn the reputations of the deceased by carrying out Police National Computer checks on those with a non-zero alcohol level".

Blood alcohol levels were tested in some survivors as well as in all those who died. In some there was "no apparent medical reason for the test" and no record was kept.

Former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher voiced concern that a 1990 report into the Hillsborough disaster constituted a "devastating criticism" of police.

Hillsborough Families Support Group chairman Trevor Hicks, who lost two daughters at Hillsborough, said they would now press for criminal action against those involved in the disaster, adding: "The truth is out today, justice starts tomorrow."

Hicks said the Hillsborough Independent Panel's report revealed shocking "depths of depravity" in the way the police tried to blame the fans after the disaster.

He said the report showed that "possibly as many as 41 people might have survived" if the disaster had been better handled.

He also rejected the "profuse apologies" offered by MacKenzie, editor of The Sun when it ran a front page story blaming fans for Hillsborough.

Hicks said MacKenzie's words were "too little, too late", calling him "lowlife, clever lowlife, but lowlife".

Hicks also called for West Yorkshire Chief Constable Norman Bettison to stand down.

Bettison is a former Merseyside Chief Constable and South Yorkshire Police officer and was involved in the original Hillsborough investigation.

Hicks said: "If he is anything of a man he will stand down and scurry up a drainpipe somewhere."

Margaret Aspinall, chairman of the Hillsborough Families Support Group, whose son James died, said the families had trusted the panel all along and thanked the members for their work and for "exonerating" the fans.

She added: "They have made our city proud today, but most importantly they have made the 96 rest in peace for the first time in all those years."

Hicks said the families gave the panel a standing ovation when it finished reporting its findings to them and that three people even fainted as the information came out.

Michael Mansfield QC, representing the families, said it was "perfectly obvious" from the report that "criminal liability - for which there is no time limit - is on the cards" and that as many as "half a dozen" people could potentially be brought to justice.

He said "if Cameron means what he says" then "justice has to follow truth" and they have a responsibility to ensure that the Director of Public Prosecutions and the Attorney General "look very carefully" at the material in the report.

The chief constable of South Yorkshire Police said he was "profoundly sorry" for his force's actions in the aftermath of the disaster.

David Crompton said he had been "shocked" by the findings of the report and officers had made "grave errors".

He said in a statement: "In the immediate aftermath senior officers sought to change the record of events. Disgraceful lies were told which blamed the Liverpool fans for the disaster.

"I am profoundly sorry for the way the force failed on April 15 1989 and I am doubly sorry for the injustice that followed and I apologise to the families of the 96 and Liverpool fans."

Mohan also apologised for The Sun's coverage of the disaster, saying: "Twenty-three years ago The Sun newspaper made a terrible mistake. We published an inaccurate and offensive story about the events at Hillsborough. We said it was the truth - it wasn't."

And Sheffield City Council apologised for the part it played in licensing and carrying out "inadequate and poorly recorded inspections" of the stadium.

The report found the ground "failed to meet minimum standards under the Safety of Sports Grounds Act 1975".

Prime Minister David Cameron told MPs: "On behalf of the Government - and indeed our country - I am profoundly sorry for this double injustice that has been left uncorrected for so long."

 

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MICHAEL OWEN admits he should have quit Manchester United earlier to play more first-team football.

 

The former England striker left United on a free transfer this summer having played just four times in an injury-plagued 2011-12, with his last first-team appearance for the club coming in November.

 

Easy money though wasn't it Mickey, hey?

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MICHAEL OWEN admits he should have quit Manchester United earlier to play more first-team football.

 

The former England striker left United on a free transfer this summer having played just four times in an injury-plagued 2011-12, with his last first-team appearance for the club coming in November.

 

Easy money though wasn't it Mickey, hey?

 

When at ManYoo, he said he'd rather play occasionally for a good team than regularly for a bad one. He'd tried that and didn't like it.

(to translate that, it's basically two fingers to Newcastle who paid him 120,000 quid a week for him to put a piss poor shift in every week as captain of a team that was needlessly relegated)

 

If it wasn't clear from the brochure, he's a washed up footballer who is also a [censored].

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But on far more important issues than Michael Owen, great to see the Hillsborough campaign finally making some progress. :thumbsup:

I think most people who went and stood on terraces will have known all along what actually happened. Its one thing for lives to be wasted, but another for them to then be demonised to cover for others' negligence and failure of duty of care.

I also think the cover up will have gone very high up into the government of the time.

I never expected the campaign to get as far as this, especially with Thatcher still alive, so nice one to the campaign and Andy Burnham.

Let's hope they make a lot more progress towards justice.

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United turned it on somewhat in the 2nd half there, easy win in the end.

 

I see Liverpool only managed a draw - 2 points out of 12. And United next week!

 

Chelsea and City just draw too. And no handshakes.

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