HelperElfMissy 42 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Have you ever been part of a research group, or a been a 'lab rat'? My eldest boy is off doing another battery of assessments today for his 16/17yr old follow up with the Raine study. This is an amazing longitudinal study that I got him into by saying yes to filling out a questionaire 18 years ago at a prenantal appointment. A small study ended up growing its own legs and has become a lifelong study that has amassed a huge amount of data. It is an amazing thing to be a part of, but I cant help but feel guilty that a choice I made to answer a few questions all those years ago means he is giving up a whole day to be 'studied'. He can say NO, but it is such valuable research that it would feel really negligent to not participate now. Has anyone else been a study participant for anything at all? What was it? Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 when I was taking psychology classes in college - esp psych of deviation, we HAD to participate in 3 experiments/semester. One of em was quite I had to watch various kinds of porn (S/M, gay, animal, extreme...whatever you can imagine) with some kind of device strapped to my cock-n-ballz to see what was "stimulating" Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thanks CB,...I feel better now- at least they are not strapping electrodes to his tackle!! Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 so which animal tickled your fancy? Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Lots of backpackers from Oz/SA in London do medical research and become real lab rats having drugs tested on them. You get about 150GBP per day at least, to sit around and watch tv and have your blood sampled from time to time. All meals + bed included, backpackers paradise. You can do a 14 day study and then you take home 2000+ to keep you in beer money for a few months. Link to post Share on other sites
boardbaka 3 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 in Japan you can amass a small fortune as a LAB RAT - have a friend that does it all the time who seems concerningly unconcerned about any potentail side effects - I guess he just sees yen signs like the reels on the pokie machines ! Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 I think my son would be jumping at the opportunity to go back every few years if he were paid for it. There is no money, or other benefit - aside from fulfilling the 'service is the rent you pay for living' philosophy. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: bobby12 Lots of backpackers from Oz/SA in London do medical research and become real lab rats having drugs tested on them. You get about 150GBP per day at least, to sit around and watch tv and have your blood sampled from time to time. All meals + bed included, backpackers paradise. You can do a 14 day study and then you take home 2000+ to keep you in beer money for a few months. my mate has recently just done this to raise enough money to get him to Japan I looked into in Uni, even got the forms for sperm donation!! 10 pounds a pop, but only 3 a week....30 quid for ahem helping childless couples sure no probs!! Didn't do it in the end as they were talking about brining in legislation about the resultant kids being able to track down their donor father....Bugger That!! Took part in psychology test in Uni as well, it wasn't as exciting as CB's tho, just looking at pictures. Was in a few line-ups for the Police, think I got paid 15-20 quid a time depending on how long it took Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 What would happen if the person picked you out in a line up? I always thought the line up was full of people who were under suspicion for the crime. Feeling a little 'blonde' right now! (see the stupid people thread...) Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Then no evidence and the rapist goes free. Hey TB weren't you bald as a teenager?? And they still wanted you to donate?? Link to post Share on other sites
TheOrange 0 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 How much effort needs to be put into that Mamabear. Never done or heard of anything like that before. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 Originally Posted By: TheOrange How much effort needs to be put into that Mamabear. Never done or heard of anything like that before. It is a pretty unique study Orange. Well... the day before we had to fill in some pretty HUGE questionaires covering all sorts of topics. it took me 2 hours to do mine (the biggest) Papa's took half an hour (the smallest) and the boys took an hour (middle sized). They already have info from previous Questionaires about family medical history etc but they ask the things that can change - do we smoke, how much we drank in the last week and what it was/when. Foods we ate. Mood. Relationship Qu's. How many bedrooms and bathroom in the house. Income. Siblings. Mood and behaviour scales for the teenager. On the boys questtionaire there were qu about sex, drugs and other teen issues - but of course I never got to see his answers On the day: He had his blood pressure tested at rest and under exertion - probably 20 different times through the testing. Had an ultrasound scan to chec for fatty deposits on his liver. Bike fitness test. Flexibility and spinal alignment. Computer generated IQ/reasoning tests. Computer test re: teen issues - sex drugs image... few other things. Next week: The vampire lady will visit with the blood test and cheek swab test and she will take samples for a number of reasons including DNA reaearch and research into cortisol and stress. He also has to supply a urine sample on that morning. In 6 months: He might be contacted to participate in a further study on cortisol levels/stress. What makes him a candidate I do not know - but he may or may not be asked. they will basically 'stress him out' and remeasure his cortisol levels. Future: Same again when he is 20... Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 Ohhh.. yeah and the tests have varied over the years. they had a big focus on lung function. allergy testing and asthma research in the early years. One of the Dad's in my yr 4 sons class is a Urologist and HE has been using some of the data that has been obtained from this study in his research. he reckons it is the most amazing data set he has ever seen and can not speak highly enough of the work the Raine Study has done and the contribution to scientific advancement made by the committment of the participant. Link to post Share on other sites
TheOrange 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Thats interesting Mamabear thanks. What exactly do you get in return for all this considerable effort other than the feeling of being a big help. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 Nothing. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 MB nothing happens, it just means that the "witness" isn't reliable, but it was a total farce. Someone put the light on in the room behind the mirrored glass which made it see thru and we were able to see the old man who was the witness, Policeman shouted to turn the light off. needless to say the old codger didn't pick right. Thurs, not really bald mate, just "did it for fashion" at the that age! haha yeah well when you can't make em yourself beggars can't be choosers eh?? Anyway isn't baldness a sex linked trait and comes thru the female line? Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted April 3, 2009 Author Share Posted April 3, 2009 Rumour has it that baldness is sex linked to the mothers side - but I personally believe that started in some fathers head when he refused to accept any role in his son losing his hair - :its your mothers fault: I think Male Pattern Baldness is more highly linked to testosterone - higher the levels the quicker you lose the hair ... so really it is a measure of virility... But there are other types of hair loss - one little fellow in my 12 yr olds class has Alopecia - and is losing clumps of his hair...probably stress related. Link to post Share on other sites
TheOrange 0 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Mamabear Nothing. Well, thats very good of you. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 There are a few factors in play I believe but the sex-linked theory is still strong. You have a 50% chance of having the same X chromosome as your maternal grandfather, so if the balding "gene" is recessive like people think then when you are given that same X chromosome by your mother (her other X comes from her mother's egg, which is always X), there is no corresponding "gene" in the Y chromosome (given by your father) to counteract the recessive allele and so the trait becomes expressed and hence you get bald! But its also been found that if your father is bald then u have a high chance of being bald too. Genetics are never as easy as we'd like! Link to post Share on other sites
Nisoko 6 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Doesn't baldness often "skip" a generation? So a bald fathers son doesn't go bald, but the son's sons do. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 that's myopia I thought Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Mamabear I think Male Pattern Baldness is more highly linked to testosterone - higher the levels the quicker you lose the hair ... so really it is a measure of virility... not true, I have a full head of hair. Link to post Share on other sites
gareth_oau 2 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Nisoko Doesn't baldness often "skip" a generation? So a bald fathers son doesn't go bald, but the son's sons do. my paternal granddad was bald. my dad isnt. i am, and my sons arent (thought at ages 13 - 19, you'd hope not!!) Link to post Share on other sites
gareth_oau 2 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 myopia is the art of being very short-sighted about your baldness? Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Originally Posted By: Nisoko Doesn't baldness often "skip" a generation? So a bald fathers son doesn't go bald, but the son's sons do. not neccessarily, but like I mentioned above there are a few complex interactions going on. It may happen like that, as a result of baldness being sex-linked. In that the group of genes responsible are on the X chromosome which can only come from your mother (in men of course). So there is a good chance that if your dad is bald then it may skip you (as your father donates the Y chromosome on which their is no Bald-gene grouping) but it depends upon the genetic information passed down from your maternal grandfather (via your mother). So if this X Chromosome has the group of genes responsible for baldness then there is a high chance you will become bald. The reasoning behind your mother NOT being bald is that she has a corresponding X chromosome (from her mother) that dominates the recessive trait of baldness on the paternal X chromosome and so doesn't express the bald trait. Obviously its a bit more complicated than simply 1 gene cancelling out another. In case anyone doesn't know..... Men= XY Chromosomes Women= XX Chromosomes 1 chromosome from each parent. Women's eggs can ONLY be of the X chromosome, whereas sperm can either be X or Y Chromosomal types Link to post Share on other sites
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