ireallylikebakedbeans 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 愛国心 Whats the best way to say this in English? Patriotic? There was a program on tv last night where they were discussing this and whether it should be a "law" or something (which seems a little strange). Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 yeah, patriotic is a reasonable fit. Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 and yeah, making it law does seem a little strange... Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Depending on the sentence it may have various meanings. So it could be used for “patriotism”, “nationalism” or even “chauvinism” in some cases. Link to post Share on other sites
HeatherLocklearRocks 1 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Don't know quite how to put this but.... if it was a law (??), what would be "against the law"? Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Maybe a low regulating which actions driven by “愛国心” are considered as patriotism and which as extreme nationalism. Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 “patriotism”, “nationalism” or even “chauvinism” So...the're going to make it law that you have to be one of them? Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I'm interested to know what the show was actually talking about. Tsondaboy's guess seems to be a good one. It could have been about defining in the law what is excessive and therefore punishable. Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 It was referring to Patriotism. Here\'s the story. "The government plans to submit a bill to revise the Fundamental Law of Education in this Diet session, the ruling coalition's two secretaries-general said Sunday. Tsutomu Takebe of the Liberal Democratic Party and New Komeito's Tetsuzo Fuyushiba made their remarks on a TV Asahi program. Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi has said he wants the bill passed in this Diet session. The coalition has agreed to define patriotism as "love for our nation and homeland." The issue has generated controversy because of fears of a revival of prewar militarism." Link to post Share on other sites
iiyamadude 6 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Nice. Link to post Share on other sites
daver 0 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 it is intended to ammend educational priciples. for an english translation and explanation check these out. original document: http://www.u-gakugei.ac.jp/~takeshik/funda.html proposed budget: http://www.mext.go.jp/english/org/budget/06b.htm explanation of intended ammendments: http://www.mext.go.jp/english/org/reform/07.htm if you scroll through the pages you will see that most of this stuff is old, interesting though. i guess they have been squabbling for a few years now on the exact definition of patriotism so as to not elude to pre-war nationalist ideals. anyone working in the school system will agree that it is in serious need of reform. let's hope that this actually will carry some weight and possitivly effect all the children who currently suffer to the doldrums of rote learning. Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I might be just daft, but I think "love of your nation" is surely up to personal choice. Link to post Share on other sites
daver 0 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 yes i agree. what people in japan, and everywhere for that matter, tend to forget is that one can be both patriotic and critical at the same time. if the so called 'love for one's country' is fostered through impartial, critical, and accurate portrayals of the culture and history then great. if it is done by entirely white washing and ignoring all potentialy negatively viewed aspects, then there is a problem. Link to post Share on other sites
igloo 3 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 The idea of "loving a country" is kinda strange to me. I find people who are particularly vocal and very strong feelings about this kind of thing rather distasteful. Link to post Share on other sites
daver 0 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 i don't think that there is a problem with having a little pride in your home. in fact, i don't think that there is any real problem with loving your home. but i agree that in the wrong hands these types of sentiments can be distasteful if not down right dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I love my home, but to me that is my family, not my country. Link to post Share on other sites
taguchi 0 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I think it is a very strange idea for making some law about this. I wish they would spend time and money on more important things. Link to post Share on other sites
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